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Re: who are all of us
- From: Robert Cohen <rlcm17...>
- Subject: Re: who are all of us
- Date: Tue 20 Jul 1999 19.47 (GMT)
I personally think that archiving bios/profiles of all of us--or whoever's
willing to be part of it--would be a wonderful idea, and much better than
the option of checking the web pages (which are not necessarily concisely
communicative in that regard) of those whot have them. This would be
centrally located and communally accessible--and you could, e.g., look up
whomever you wanted to look whenever you needed to. That's, of course,
assuming that Ari is willing to compile it (if that's who would have to, as
I assume; I'm a child in such matters, as Alistair Sim once said in a
delightful movie).
>From: Lori Cahan-Simon <lsimon (at) SoftHome(dot)net>
>Reply-To: jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org
>To: World music from a Jewish slant <jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org>
>Subject: Re: Doinas & taksim
>Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 22:17:36 -0400
>
>At 05:47 PM 7/19/99 -0400, you wrote:
> >
> >
> >Ari Davidow wrote:
> >
> >> At 02:07 PM 7/19/99 -0400, you wrote:
> >> >I'm a bit skeptical of Wolf's statements about the use of doinas by E.
>European
> >> >klezmorim. It is clear that doinas were part of the European klezmer
> >> >repertoire
> >> >(there are a number of early recorded examples of klezmer doinas from
>Europe
> >> >and
> >> >the US).
> >>
> >> Damn. I have to stop answering these while I'm at work. Over the
> >> weekend I was reading someone's thesis (from Harvard, in a non-musical
> >> field, mind you) and he was writing about how recording transformed
> >> the doina, and the older taksim, which had been played sort of under
> >> the badkhn at a wedding. Recordings, especially limited to 3 or 4
> >> minutes, entirely changed the context.
> >>
> >> Very different, yet again, from the post-revival modern context,
> >> if so, and perpendicular to the discussion that raised the issue,
> >> but thought I would add it into the pot. Will try to get the thesis
> >> info when I get home, if someone reminds me.
> >>
> >> As to the question of what music has what relevance to what sexuality,
> >> I'm not entirely sure this is germane to this list, or is going
> >> to be answered satisfactorily without serious study. Let us resume our
> >> studies (or lack thereof), and should someone feel obligated to report
> >> back on clinical observations, perhaps private e-mail to interested
> >> parties would work better :-).
> >
> >I appreciated reading all the erudite postings about <doinas>.Thank you
>Peter, Paul
> >and Sherry.
> >I stand corrected regarding my statement that <shtetl klezmorim>
> >did not play <doinas>. I did not clearly state which era I was thinking
>of,
> >so my statement was not accurate.
> >
> >I am having some trouble with this last paragraph of yours, though, Ari.
> >
> >If I reccollect correctly, my thoughts on sexual rhythms in music
>garnered, I
> >think,
> >2 public responses, one from Joshua Horowitz (who made a good joke) and
>one
> >from Lori, which generated 3 more posts, 2 from me and one from Lori.
> >
> >What is the problem? Why not just let the thread peter out on it's
> >own like so many other threads that weave their way throiugh this list?
> >
> >Why would you want to arbitrarily choose to censor this particular
>discussion?
> >Is it not germane to this list to discuss how music makes one FEEL,
> >or is it mostly for what people believe they KNOW about music.
> >
> >Given our history (yours and mine) I can't help but entertain the the
>thought that
> >
> >your attempt to censor "my" discussion is motivated by personal
>animosity.
> Is it?
> >
> >Either that -- or you are one repressed prude, dude.
> >
> >A list member (in private mail) anticipated this sort of response.
> >Who made you the Brain Police; is this a Family Values thing?
> >
> >Part of the enjoyment of being on this list is that sometimes, due to a
>stimulating
> >or provocative post, people are moved into revealing something real about
> >themselves,
> >not just their supposed learning.
> >
> >Wolf Krakowski
> >www.kamea.com
> >
> >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >"It is my right as a human being and a <yid> to post whatever I want" --
>Trudi the
> >G
> >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> >
> >
>
>Not meaning to make waves (after all, I am new here and perhaps am not
>aware of all the established protocol), I would like to add that I'd enjoy
>getting to know all of you better from a personal standpoint. Who are all
>of us and what do we all do in our lives that have made us subscribe to
>this list? Some other lists suggest introductions from new members with
>autobio info. Perhaps we should all introduce ourselves, unless you all
>know each other already and I'm the "odd guy out".
>
>Lori
> >
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> ari
> >>
> >> Ari Davidow
> >> ari (at) ivritype(dot)com
> >> list owner, jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org
> >> the klezmer shack: http://www.klezmershack.com/
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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- Re: who are all of us,
Robert Cohen