RE:Dear Reyzl

[Trudi Goodman <goobietheg...>]

Dear Reyzl:
I respond to you from a place in my heart that says, so sad of you to think 
that people do not have a right to respond to what you write.
Otherwise, why post it?

Am I a "lurker"?  How xenophobic of you to ask.
I will post as I see fit, just as you will.
I have already stated my interests in postings, any time you would like to  
tell me if you have an interest in Yiddish/Ladino music and the theatre, I 
would love to hear that.
But, I have no intentions of not speaking from the heart about Jewish 
matters if I want to.
That is my right as a human being and a Yid.
Yours Truly,
Trudi Goodman
Lepracohen in Residence

>From: Reyzl Kalifowicz-Waletzky <reyzl (at) flash(dot)net>
>Reply-To: jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org
>To: World music from a Jewish slant <jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org>
>Subject: RE: Elvis Stuff
>Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 22:15:59 -0400
>
>Trudi,
>
>Let me explain something really important to you.
>
>
>Lurkers on mailing list have no right to complain.  Regular posters are not
>here to offer you information and entertainment on what interests you.   We
>talk about what interests us.  You want another topic?   You initiate the
>conversation and who ever is also interested in the same will respond to
>you.  As you see, sometimes you will get informed people responding and
>sometimes it will be people who only think they are informed.
>
>Till then cherish your delete button.
>
>
>Reyzl
>
>
>----------
>From:  Trudi Goodman[SMTP:goobietheg (at) hotmail(dot)com]
>Sent:  Tuesday, July 13, 1999 4:33 PM
>To:  World music from a Jewish slant
>Subject:  Re: Elvis Stuff
>
> >From Trudi Goodman:
>I want to know why you are all so obsessed with who is Jewish???
>It makes you what, better Yidn?
>My response is to try having a sense of humor.  It wouldn't kill you. I'm
>fairly religious, so I am not requesting that someone not care about that.
>What I am requesting is that people just GET OFF THEIR HIGH HORSES ABOUT
>JEWS.!!!
>WE ARE JUST PEOPLE, NOT BETTER OR WORSE THAN ANY OTHER PEOPLE.
>I am all for celebrating Jewish diversity.  That means everybody's
>diversity.  And if the El was proud of his Jewish relatives, so
>be it.  That is good enough for me.
>If you don't like that, and need to see a frum Jew under
>every bush and tree in someone's family tree, I feel sorry for you. Because
>it means that you are short-sighted and unrealistic about what it means to
>be a Jew in the world.
>As for my credentials as a Yid---my first cousin was Joseph Shubow, the
>chief Rabbi of Boston, is that GOOD ENOUGH FOR YOU?
>Zei Gezunt.
>And how about some discussions about Jewish culture and diversity???
>My mother's family is North African and I would like to hear more about
>that.
>As for the slam about Black music?  Why is that chazerei necessary?
>Good music is good music.  As Mozart said(himself rumored to be a Jew)
>Love...Love... that is the Soul of genuis.
>So try some love here, as opposed to sectarianism!
>I'm tired of this from you guys and incredibly pissed off about it.
>Shalom and Peace be with you.
>Trudi Goodman
>
> >From: "Kame'a Media" <media (at) kamea(dot)com>
> >Reply-To: jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org
> >To: World music from a Jewish slant <jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org>
> >Subject: Re: Elvis Stuff
> >Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 09:18:24 -0400
> >
> >
> >
> >Trudi Goodman wrote:
> >
> > > From: Trudi Goodman
> > > Check his friend George's biography/memoir of the El.
> > > George is Jewish.  Knew Elvis since childhood, grew up in the same
>hood.
> >  I
> > > believe his last name is Stein???
> >
> >Klein.
> >
> > > The story goes that when Elvis' mother died--according to her wishes,
> > > because her mother was Jewish(El's grandmother) she wanted a Jewish
>star
> > > puton her headstone.Elvis did this--and his father Vernon freaked and
> > > demanded that it be removed---Vernon didn't want anyone to know that
>his
> >wife
> > > was part Jewish.
> >
> > > I don't know if the star is actually still on the headstone---many
> >people
> > > knew this story though.
> > > Elvis always maintained that he was part Jewish.
> > > Of course, some of his friends were Jews growing up, like George.  
>Also
> >when
> > > his family was destitute(I think when his father Vern was in Jail) a
> >local
> > > Rabbi rented his mother and him an apartment--or gave them space to
>live
> >in
> > > his basement.
> > > So, if he wasn't Jewish he at least wanted to be.  Close enough for
> >Jazz, I'd
> > > say.
> >
> >I beg to differ.  Acknowledging one's family history and blood lines is
> >hardly
> >the same as "wanting to be Jewish".   Elvis  had no Jewish upbringing;  
>he
> >was
> >raised in the church and at revival meetings. If he had wanted to be
> >Jewish, I
> >don't think he would have recorded all those gospel albums or celebrated
> >Christmas like aSouthern <poretz>, with his legendary lavish gift-giving,
> >do
> >you?'
> >There is no record of any <seder> ever having taken place at Graceland or
> >of
> >Elvis ever exploring conversion...According to the definitive Elvis
> >biography
> >(the two-volumes by American Music scholar Peter Guralnick -- Elvis did
> >indeed
> >have Jewish ancestry on his mother's side.  He also carried  a dozen 
>other
> >blood lines including Native American and several European nationalities.
> >
> >I don't think "close enough for jazz" is either a valid or an accurate
> >statement.
> >The implication is that jazz is some sort of sloppy, half-ass music.  One
> >must
> >be
> >a very good and well-versed player to improvise creatively, no?
> >
> >Wolf
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: Reyzl Kalifowicz-Waletzky <reyzl (at) flash(dot)net>
> > > >Reply-To: jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org
> > > >To: World music from a Jewish slant <jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org>
> > > >Subject: RE: Julio Inglesias Jewish? -Reply
> > > >Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 13:00:36 -0400
> > > >
> > > > >My understanding is that Elvis's maternal grandmother was Jewish.
> > > >
> > > >I don't think that this is true.   I know that his mother was born in
> > > >Palestine but that doesn't automatically mean that the family was
> >Jewish.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Reyzl
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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