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RE: forgetting one's own music
- From: Robert Cohen <rlcm17...>
- Subject: RE: forgetting one's own music
- Date: Wed 14 Jul 1999 18.26 (GMT)
I wonder if forgetting one's own creative work can be a function of one's
prolificness (or whatever). Shlomo Carlebach, zt"l, I'm told, could also
forget that a niggun he liked was actually his!--long since, like so many of
his, become part of the contemporary folk music of the Jewish people. Now
I'm trying to think if there's some radio program I did or article I wrote
that I've forgotten about. There _must_ be....BTW, I wish Reyzl had advised
us that the D. Hammett PBS movie (OK, not about music) was Josh's. It was
borderline for me to make time for or even tape, and I didn't. But I would
have.
>From: Reyzl Kalifowicz-Waletzky <reyzl (at) flash(dot)net>
>Reply-To: jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org
>To: World music from a Jewish slant <jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org>
>Subject: RE: Music at Jewish affairs.
>Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 09:52:22 -0400
>
>I know about those sieves. I am married to one and his 250 IQ just
>doesn't make up the gap. It may be related to that Y chromosome. My
>husband can't remember his own compositions either. He just went to a camp
>reunion and old campers sang him whole songs that he had written, songs
>that they have sung to themselves and their kids for the last 25-30 years
>and he had completely forgotten about. He wound up being very impressed
>with some of them and has been singing them himself finally.
> UGGGGGHHHHH!!!!! But now my elphantine memory is going fast. But, I
>say, that I the difference is that I know the datum I is missing when I
>need it!*!*!*!*!*!*!
>
>I think that everything about Brandwein was unique. Even if you master
>one or two or even three elements, you still haven't gotten him down. I
>am trying to convince Josh to make a film about him, but he is still be too
>busy with other films. (His film about Dashelle Hammett just played last
>week on PBS.)
>
>
>Reyzl
>
>
>----------
>From: Owen Davidson[SMTP:owend (at) tp(dot)net]
>Sent: Friday, July 09, 1999 5:29 PM
>To: World music from a Jewish slant
>Subject: Re: Music at Jewish affairs.
>
>You are absolutely right about that Reyzl!
>
>I have a memory like the proverbial sieve (actually, chicken-wire would be
>closer to the truth: at Klez-Kamp two years ago, Merlin played a tune for
>the
>dance ensemble. "Has anyone ever heard this before?" he asked. "Nope," I
>said confidently. The guy next to me, whom I'd just met minutes before,
>turned
>to me and said, "You recorded it on your last album." Ohhh, yeaaah... in
>one
>year, out the other.) Anyway, as I was saying, I think, I've got a
>terrible
>memory. But there can be no mistaking Brandwein's trademark tone. One
>day, en
>route to a rehearsal, our trombonist, Brian Bender, whose memory is like a
>colander, said "I think I wrote a new tune, but I'm not sure," and began to
>sing it. "It's Naftule," I said. I knew I'd heard it, and the melody
>alone
>brought the clearest recollection of that particularly brilliant tone. At
>the
>rehearsal, Sherry, whose seykhel is the stuff of legend, instantly
>diagnosed
>the tune as "Lebedik Naftule." Brian was crestfallen, and I was left
>wondering
>at the recognizability of Brandwein's sound. I don't think there's another
>musician that could cut through my mental haze as clearly. Trend-setters
>like
>Dave Tarras or Miles Davis, however distinctive, have been so often and so
>well
>imitated that I could never be sure. You'd have to ask someone more
>knowledgable, like a head of cabbage, maybe.
>
>Owen
>
>P.S. "Owen is right!" -I. B. Kapusta
>
>
>
>Reyzl Kalifowicz-Waletzky wrote:
>
> > >znip<
> >
> > I don't know about the other 3 guys, but I totally agree about
>Brandwein.
> > In fact, I will never forget the first times I heard Brandwein. Henry
> > Sapoznik had just found "Firn di Makhetonim Aheym" in the YIVO archive
>for
> > my husband to put into his film "Image Before My Eyes" and I was just
> > bowled over with the unique, haunting sound of that music. It was
> > sssssssooooooooooooooooo extraordinary. Once you hear the original, you
> > don't forget that sound. It's the kind of experience similar to a
>first
> > time hearing Paul Robeson or the Italian tenor Gille sing. Once you
>have
> > heard it, you KNOW that sound, you will always recognize it, and you
>will
> > not forget it because it is so unique and special. "Firn di Makhetonim
> > Aheym" played in brain for years and years after the opening of Image.
> So
> > the question is what occasions do you create where you can expose people
>to
> > Naftuli Brandwein? The fact is that, although many klezmer bands have
> > tried to copy the sound for the last 19 years, no one, absolutely no one
> > has yet been able to capture it. So what do you do? I don't know.
>Put
> > the original in some commercial or Hollywood film so that as many people
>as
> > possible can discover it? That's all I can think of right now, but I
> > don't know if it's doable. Put it on a web site that plays it 7/24 ?
>I
> > know that it's not good for line dancing.
> >
> > Reyzl
> >
>
>
>
>
>
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- RE: forgetting one's own music,
Robert Cohen