Re: you're as Jewish as you think you are!!!

[Trudi Goodman <goobietheg...>]

In response to this issue.
My great grandfather was an Irish foundling born in London, England, left on 
jewish people's doorstep in 1850-1860. They took him in and adopted him.  He 
was raised Orthodox, came to the USA, had a store in an Irish section of 
Boston.  he definitely didn't "look" Jewish, He looked sort of like Conan 
O'brien. My mother and sister have this coloring.  _auburn red hair and blue 
eyes.  Very County Clare.
My great grandfather, James Nathan Bornstein had a great philosophy on this 
subject of who and what is a Jew.  If you didn't like the fact that he was 
Irish---too bad.  If you didn't like the fact that he was Jewish---equally 
too bad.  If you didn't like the fact that he was an Irish Jew---how fast 
could you run?
In other words, be all of who you are.  Not a bad philosophy, hunh.
Pretty novel and scary and dangerous for 1890's America.  but shouldn't be 
such a "biggie" for YK2000. Live and Let live.  And as that wonderful jewish 
composer, Mozart said..."Love, love that is the soul of genuis."  Yes he was 
jewish---and.???
Love and knishes, Trudi Goodman


>From: "robert wiener" <wiener (at) mindspring(dot)com>
>Reply-To: jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org
>To: World music from a Jewish slant <jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org>
>Subject: Re: Julio Inglesias Jewish?
>Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 10:16:56 -0400
>
>It seems to me that there is more to making Jewish music than having a
>Jewish name (or parents with Jewish names) -- whatever definition we
>use.  I think that the fact that lineage will suffice for being Jewish
>leads to that flawed notion and "Jewish music" projects such as the
>list  below, the "Stars of David" CD-rom and Theresienstadt composer
>series that include pieces before and after the Shoah that have
>nothing to do with Judaism.  It is of the same genre as "Bar Mitzvah
>books" of Jewish Sports Heroes and Adam Sandler's song.
>
>In fact, if Judaism really taught that Judaism is all about blood,
>conversion would not be possible and it would feel racist to me.
>
>That said, it is interesting that several of the list members below
>have recorded music relevant to Judaism (e.g., Streisand's "Hatikvah"
>and Jolson's "Kol Nidre").
>
>Bob
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Seth Rogovoy <rogovoy (at) berkshire(dot)net>
>To: World music from a Jewish slant <jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org>
>Date: Friday, July 02, 1999 9:00 AM
>Subject: RE: Julio Inglesias Jewish?
>
>
> >> Van Halen too?
> >
> >ex-lead singer David Lee Roth, a Jew.
> >
> >> Blondie?
> >
> >lead singer Debbie Harry=Debbie Harari, a Sephardic Jew (?)
> >
> >
> >>
> >> The Jewish Telegraphic Agency recently wrote that Mel Torme, who
> >> just died
> >> was Jewish.   Never knew that.
> >>
> >>    "Torme, who died Saturday at 73 of complications from a stroke
>he
> >>    suffered in 1996, was born to Russian Jewish immigrant parents
>on
> >>    Chicago's South Side.
> >>
> >>    Immigration officials had changed the family's name from Torma
>to
> >>    Torme.
> >>
> >>    In an interview some years ago, the singer recalled that he and
>his
> >>    family would sit on the front stoop after Sabbath dinner and
>sing
> >>    for the neighbors."
> >>
> >>
> >> Here is the list at the Zipple site:
> >>
> >> --------------------FORWARD---------------------------
> >> OK...So it may not be "Jewish Music"! But, they are Jewish and they
> >> are creating music!!
> >>
> >> Paul[a] Abdul
> >> Stan Getz
> >> Mandy Patinkin
> >> Herb Albert
> >> Go Go's
> >> Pearl Jam
> >> Burt Bacharach
> >> Benny Goodman
> >> Jan Peerce
> >> The Bangles
> >> Eydie Gorme
> >> Itzhak Perlman
> >> Irving Berlin
> >> Guns and Roses
> >> Phish
> >> Victor Borge
> >> Sheldon Harnick
> >> Porno for Pyros
> >> Beastie Boys
> >> Richard Hell
> >> Poster Children
> >> Blondie
> >> Iggy Pop
> >> Elvis Presley
> >> Blue Oyster Cult
> >> Julio Inglesias
> >> The Ramones
> >> Blur
> >> Billy Joel
> >> Red Hot Chili Peppers
> >> Eddie Cantor
> >> Al Jolson
> >> Lou Reed
> >> The Clash
> >> Dannny Kaye
> >> Buddy Rich
> >> Joe Cocker
> >> Jerome Kern
> >> Rogers & Hammerstein
> >> Al Cohn
> >> Carole King
> >> David Lee Roth
> >> Cy Coleman
> >> KISS
> >> Rush
> >> Sammy Davis Jr.
> >> The Knack
> >> Adam Sandler
> >> Depeche Mode
> >> Lenny Kravitz
> >> Neil Sedaka
> >> Neil Diamond
> >> Steve Lawrence
> >> Artie Shaw
> >> Dictators
> >> Jerry Leiber
> >> Dinah Shore
> >> Dire Straits
> >> Frank Loesser
> >> Alan Sherman
> >> Bob Dylan
> >> Alan Jay Lerner
> >> Simon and Garfunkel
> >> Elastica
> >> Lords of the New Church
> >> Carly Simon
> >> Mama Cass Elliot
> >> Barry Manilow
> >> Paul Simon
> >> Michael Feinstein
> >> Manfred Mann
> >> Steely Dan
> >> Eddie Fisher
> >> Marc Bolan & T. Rex
> >> Stephan Sondheim
> >> Free
> >> Tony Martin
> >> Phil Spector
> >> Bud Freeman
> >> Jackie Mason
> >> Barbara Streisand
> >> Kenny G.
> >> Bette Midler
> >> Mel Torme
> >> J. Geils Band
> >> New York Dolls
> >> Van Halen
> >> Georgre Gershwin
> >> Randy Newman
> >> Weird Al Yankovic
> >> Ira Gershwin
> >> Phil Ochs
> >> Paul Whiteman
> >> Warren Zevon
> >> =================================================================
> >>
> >>
> >> Reyzl
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
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