Re: drinking songs as religious music

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Subject: Re: drinking songs as religious music 
Author:  Yerachmiel Altman at ibi-cor4
Date:    2/26/98 4:33 PM


B"H

Hi,

You wrote/asked:

> 
> 
>      Do you have anything appropriate to respond to this?? I know somewhere 
>      i have seen written on these nigunim but cannot at moment remember...

Nyet Nyet Nikavo was an old "bar" song and was transformed by the 
Previous Rebbe into a declaration of Belief in Hashem. According to 
Sichos of the Rebbe which I recall (vaguely) there are certain Nigunim 
which the Rebbeim transformed so as to break the power of the negative 
forces. I.e. Napoleon's March, The Marseilles, and others.


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     In a message dated 98-02-25 14:02:32 EST, you write:

     <<  I'll give YOU a reali life anecdote from MY life.  I attended 
     services
     in 770 Eastern Parkway when I was about 13.  I came back singing their 
     Hashem Echod (Nyet Nyet Nikavo) melody.  One of my Hebrew teachers, 
     (who was a
     native ocarist russia) started laughig at me.  He asked me if I knew 
     that this was a
     VERY baudy Russian Army melody?  I had no idea.  But I eventually did 
     see it sung in a movie about WWI, in a scene where Czarist Russia army 
     troops march
     to
     this very same melody.  >>

     My Russian friends say it's a Russian Orthodox church hymn melody.  I 
     would guess (based on Camp Ramah experience) that this pre-dated the 
     bawdy army version.
     ___________

     That's nothing! Those folks down on Eastern Parkway [the Lubovicher 
     hassidim -- ed. note] have one song, "Ne zhurite brati" (Don't Scold 
     Me, Brothers) which is not only an old Russian drinking song, but they 
     sing it in
     Russian (which very few of them understand) with the original words. 
     Apparently it had some kind of mystical interpretation from one of the 
     rebbes.
     Itzik Leyb