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THE ALT.MUSIC GROUP LIST
$Revision: 1.51 $, $Date: 1995/05/01 17:42:57 $
Copyright (c) 1995, Brian Edmonds
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List compiled and maintained by [[Brian Edmonds]].  Please send all additions
(especially relevent URLs for the web page), corrections and updates to
<[[edmonds (at) cs(dot)ubc(dot)ca]]>.  If possible, please try to format your 
entries
in such a way that I can just cut and paste them into the list.

This is intended to be a list of all known groups in the alt.music hierarchy,
along with a short description of what the group is for.  Anyone with
information to add to the descriptions should mail it to the list maintainer.
Currently the list is being posted to alt.config, alt.music.misc, and a number
of other alt.music groups each week.  It is also available as follows:
    o [[http://www.cs.ubc.ca/spider/edmonds/usenet/alt-music.html]]
    o send email to [[majordomo (at) edmonds(dot)home(dot)cs(dot)ubc(dot)ca]] 
with the single line
      "get faq alt-music.txt" in the body of the message

Thanks to:
    o Alan Brown for making me think this might actually work.
    o Joshua Kreitzer for many suggestions he'll deny if asked.  :)
    o Myra Wong for the LoMML and formatting ideas.
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How To Use This List

Known groups are listed with their newsgroups description line and a
few lines describing the intended subject of the group.  If there is a known
mailing list echo for the group, it is also included.  At the end of the list,
there are suggestions on how to create a newsgroup for your favourite musical
artist, a pointer on how to create alt groups, and a pointer to how to find
musical mailing lists.  Please consult the list of musical mailing lists and
carefully consider the suggestions for creating a musical newsgroup before
coming to alt.config to ask for a new alt.music group.
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    o [[alt.music.4-track]] ()
    o [[alt.music.4ad]] (Artists on the 4AD label, and their music)
      "The artists on this label include: A. R. Kane; Bauhaus; Belly; Heidi
      Berry; The Birthday Party; Frank Black; The Breeders; Michael Brook;
      Budd, Fraser, Guthrie, Raymonde; Cocteau Twins; Colourbox; Dead Can
      Dance; Dif Juz; Frazier Chorus; His Name Is Alive; In Camera; Gilbert
      and Lewis; Lush; M|A|R|R|S; Modern English; Colin Newman; Pale Saints;
      Pixies; Red House Painters; Rema Rema; Richenel; Rowland S Howard and
      Lydia Lunch; Spirea X; Swallow; The The; The Happy Family; This Mortal
      Coil; Throwing Muses; The Wolfgang Press; Ultra Vivid Scene; Unrest;
      Voix Bulgares; v23; Xmal Deutschland; Xymox." Rui Pedro Mendes Salgueiro
      <rps (at) mat(dot)uc(dot)pt>.
    o [[alt.music.a-cappella]] (Like rec.music.a-cappella, only different)
      A-cappella (human voice only) music.  "It has been effectively
      superceded by [[rec.music.a-cappella]] which has 10 times the number of
      posts.  alt groups can't be deleted, so it's still here.  Some people
      don't have access to the r.m.a-cappella group and post here instead."
      Greg Weiss <grweiss (at) cs(dot)princeton(dot)edu>.
    o [[alt.music.abba]] (ABBA, its music, memebers and fans)
      "This news group was set up to discuss the past and present careers of
      Agnetha, Benny, Bjorn and Anni-Frid, who formed the 70's pop group ABBA.
      In their 10 years of recording, they sold a quarter of a billion
      records, and were one of the truely world-wide bands, with some of their
      songs recorded in several languages.  With recent 70's revivals this
      group welcomes discussion of other ABBA related items." James Porritt
      <poz (at) jporritt(dot)demon(dot)co(dot)uk>.
    o [[alt.music.aliceinchains]] (One of Seattle's Finest)
      "Discussion of Alice in Chains including Internet resources and the
      occassional update from the mailing list.  Mostly discussion amongst
      fans of the band, including info., trading, questions, answers, etc."
      KhadejahJ <KhadejahJ (at) aol(dot)com>.
    o [[alt.music.alternative]] (For groups having 2 or less Platinum-selling
      albums)
    o [[alt.music.alternative.female]] (Discussing alternative music by female
      artists)
    o [[alt.music.amy-grant]] (Discussion of the music and life of Amy Grant)
      "This group mostly focuses on discussion of Amy Grant, although
      occasionally it can swing to her husband, Gary Chapman (a fellow
      singer), or Michael W. Smith (her former keyboardist).  Since landing
      her first record contract at age 15, Amy has received numerous awards;
      these include 5 Grammy Awards, 19 Dove Awards, and most recently, the
      prestigious Pax Christi Award.  She was also featured in the 1992 'The
      50 Most Beautiful People in the World' People magazine issue.  After
      having sold ~20 million albums so far, Amy still insists on doing her
      own shopping and chores; it's a way for her to maintain her grounding
      with friends and family.  Amy's always been big on giving, and keeps
      humanitarian issues close to her heart." Pradeep Bhatia
      <u8807385 (at) Muss(dot)CIS(dot)McMaster(dot)Ca>.
    o [[alt.music.beastie-boys]] (Discussion of crossover group, The)
      "This group has been used for discussion of the b-boyz and other Grand
      Royals and is now getting quite a bit of mail on a group called 311
      without much interference from subscribers.  A Tribe Called Quest, a
      Grand Royal group called Luscious Jackson and just about any new phunk
      gets notice there." Tim Peter Nicholls
      <dyslxic3 (at) uclink(dot)berkeley(dot)edu>.
    o [[alt.music.beck]] (Beck Hanson, his music and other projects)
      "This group is used to discuss the music of Beck, its influences and its
      characteristics.  He writes a brand of music that refers (both overtly
      and stylistically) to many older artists and styles that can be
      discussed and argued about here.  Since his music is often hard to find,
      and his side-projects are often quiet, this group should be a convenient
      way for fans to keep in touch with upcoming releases as well as rare
      recordings and othe relevant people/musicians." Vijay Ramanujan
      <vrmjay (at) umich(dot)edu>.
    o [[alt.music.bela-fleck]] (Bela and the Flecktones)
      "This group is intended for discussions of Bela Fleck's music, including
      bluegrass, new acoustic and jazz.  Discussions on new acoustic music in
      general have taken place here, as have discussions of music by related
      artists like Jerry Douglas, Sam Bush, Mark O'Connor, Tony Rice and Edgar
      Meyer."
        * [[http://www.vuw.ac.nz/~gnat/banjo/fleck-faq]]
      Nathan Torkington <Nathan(dot)Torkington (at) vuw(dot)ac(dot)nz>.
    o [[alt.music.big-band]] (Sounds from the Big Band era)
    o [[alt.music.billy-joel]] (Discussion of Billy Brinkley, err Joel)
      "Billy Joel has been a mainstay of Rock music for over 20 years.  This
      newsgroup includes discussions on Billy's pre-solo career with 60's
      bands Atilla and The Hassles, his long solo career (20 years worth of
      music to compare, contrast, praise, and critique), and his current
      concert tours."
        * [[http://www.cs.umd.edu/~mike/billy-joel.faq.html]]
      Mike Steele <mike (at) cs(dot)umd(dot)edu>.
    o [[alt.music.bjork]] (Discussion of Icelandic singer Bjork)
      Bjork is an Icelandic singer, formerly of the Sugarcubes.  Her hits
      include "Big Time Sensuality".
    o [[alt.music.blues-traveler]] (For "All fellow travelers")
      This group is gatewayed from the blues-traveler mailing list,
      [[blues-traveler-request (at) cs(dot)umd(dot)edu]], which is run by Dabe 
Murphy
      <dabe (at) cs(dot)UMD(dot)EDU>.  HORDE (non-BT) related topics are 
intended to
      be kept to a minimum, and there is a separate mailing list for HORDE
      discussion, [[horde-request (at) world(dot)std(dot)com]](dot)  Tim Peter 
Nicholls
      <dyslxic3 (at) uclink(dot)berkeley(dot)edu> was the first to fill me in 
that
      "HORDE stands for Horizons Of Rock Developing Everywhere," and is a tour
      featuring a number of bands which seem to be gaining in popularity.
      According to Dabe, they have been going on for three or four years, and
      were orginally headlined by Phish, the Spin Doctors, BT and Widespread
      Panic.
    o [[alt.music.bootlegs]] (Discussion of unofficial recordings)
      Recordings released without the authorization of the artist's record
      company (typically these are live recordings).  In much of the world it
      is at least a copyright violation to produce and sell such recordings.
    o [[alt.music.boyz-2-men]] (The harmonizations of Boyz II Men)
      "Boyz II Men came out first with their album Cooleyhighharmony.  The
      whole world was amazed by the beautiful melodious songs with a hip hop
      beat.  After they realeased another multi-winning album II, Boyz II Men
      proved to the world that they weren't another one hit wonder.  In
      response to their popular demand, this newsgroup was created to discuss,
      songs, concerts, and the personalities of Boyz II Men.  If it has to do
      with Boyz II Men, post it here!!"
        * [[http://rci.ripco.com:8080/~pvranas/boyzIImen.html]]
      Paul Vranas <pvranas (at) rci(dot)ripco(dot)com>.
    o [[alt.music.brian-eno]] (Apparently too popular to warrant further
      description)
    o [[alt.music.butholesurfers]] (The psychadelic hard-core group Butthole
      Surfers)
    o [[alt.music.byrds]] (The music and fans of The Byrds)
      "Alt.music.byrds is a newsgroup for discussion of the folk-rock group,
      'The Byrds'.  The Byrds were the first and the best of the folk-rock
      groups of the 60's, formed in Los Angeles in 1964.  The group consisted
      of James "Roger" McGuinn (12-string guitar), David Crosby (guitar), Gene
      Clark (tambourine), Chris Hillman (bass), and Michael Clarke (drums)."
      Joel Furr <jfurr (at) netcom(dot)com>.
    o [[alt.music.canada]] (Oh, Canada, eh?)
      Canadian bands, artists, and music in general.
    o [[alt.music.celine-dion]] (Discussion of the music and the art of)
    o [[alt.music.chapel-hill]] (You might think hymnals and chants, but you'd
      be wrong)
      I'm told that this group is for discussion of artists from the college
      town Chapel Hill, North Carolina.
    o [[alt.music.clannad]] ()
      "Irish folk and pop band, members from the Brennan family.  Lead singer
      Maire Brennan has more recently released albums of her own.  See also
      [[alt.music.enya]] (Enya has been a part-time member of Clannad)." Kevin
      F. Quinn <kevq (at) banana(dot)demon(dot)co(dot)uk>.
    o [[alt.music.complex-arrang]] (To complex for _your_ simple mind)
    o [[alt.music.counting-crows]] ()
      An American rock band which recently became successful with such songs
      as "Mr. Jones."
    o [[alt.music.danzig]] (Discussion of the works of Glenn Danzig.  MOTHER!)
    o [[alt.music.dave-matthews]] (The Dave Matthews Band)
    o [[alt.music.deep-purple]] (Discussions about Deep Purple and related
      artists)
      "Related artists include solo projects of anyone who's ever been in Deep
      Purple, and bands consisting of people who have been in DP.  This
      includes Gillan, Rainbow, Whitesnake, Black Sabbath, Glenn Hughes, Roger
      Glover, Captain Beyond, Fandango, Warhorse and a host of others.
      Spinoffs of those are also allowed, and if Ritchie Blackmore's hairpiece
      does session work with the dead weasel on Ian Paice's head,
      a.m.deep-purple is where you'll hear it first.  Oh, and the career of
      Ritchie Blackmore's son (truly a related artist) has been mentioned a
      couple of times as well." R. Dijkhuis <s0499528 (at) let(dot)rug(dot)nl>.
    o [[alt.music.def-leppard]] (Talk about the rock group Def Leppard)
        * [[http://www.princeton.edu/~nieder/defleppard/def.html]]
    o [[alt.music.dio]] (Rock artist Ronnie James Dio and his music)
      "This group, created in November, 1994, is meant for discussions about
      vocalist Ronnie James Dio, about the musicians who've worked with him
      and about other things related to him.  Ronnie James Dio was one of the
      heavy metal originators, as well as making music from traditional '50s
      rock 'n' roll to heavy metal, including blues, jazz, rock and even
      gospel.  He has fronted several famous heavy metal bands: Elf, Rainbow,
      Black Sabbath and Dio as well as taken part in several other projects.
      Most of the today's heavy metal bands mention him or his bands as their
      major influences." Tapio Heih{nen <dio (at) snakemail(dot)hut(dot)fi>.
    o [[alt.music.dream-theater]] (Is "progressive metal" an accepted label?)
    o [[alt.music.ebm]] (Electronic (or not?) Body Music)
    o [[alt.music.ecto]] (Happy Rhodes and other music by plasms)
    o [[alt.music.elo]] (The Electric Light Orchestra)
    o [[alt.music.enigma-dcd-etc]] (Groups blending ambient and cultural
      influences)
      "This group exists for the discussion of both Enigma and Dead Can Dance,
      as well as any other musical group that falls into genre (eg.  Delerium,
      Deep Forest, Enya, Loreena McKennitt, and even Pink Floyd).  All these
      groups blend ambient and cultural elements, producing a new type of
      music that does not fit into any standard classification.  Whereas
      before information on the aforementioned groups were scattered
      throughout the various other newsgroups in the alt.music heirarchy, now
      alt.music.enigma-dcd-etc gives this information a home.  Since both
      Enigma and Dead Can Dance have a large following but no specific
      newsgroups, alt.music.enigma-dcd-etc provides a convienent place to
      distribute information and promote awareness of these and other groups."
      Alex Pomeranz <aapomeranz (at) ucdavis(dot)edu>.
    o [[alt.music.enya]] (Gaelic set to spacey music)
      "Enya is an Irish musician, from the same family as Clannad (see
      alt.music.clannad).  Her unique music is atmospheric and evocative."
      Kevin F. Quinn <kevq (at) banana(dot)demon(dot)co(dot)uk>.
    o [[alt.music.fates-warning]] (Fates Warning)
    o [[alt.music.filk]] (SF/fantasy related folk music)
    o [[alt.music.fleetwood-mac]] (Rock group Fleetwood Mac and its members)
      "This group was created in early June of 1994 for the discussion of all
      topics relevant to Fleetwood Mac and its members, including their solo
      projects.  Stevie Nicks is the most popular subject of threads in the
      group, but posts having to do with ~all~ present and former band members
      are welcomed and encouraged.  Traffic is steady, if low-volume (there
      are currrently about 80 unread a.m.f-m articles in my newsfeed as of
      2/28/95) and the group becomes more active whenever the group or one of
      its members has an album, tour or other project going." Joseph A. Admire
      <jadmire (at) netcom(dot)com>.
    o [[alt.music.genesis]] (The rock group Genesis)
    o [[alt.music.green-day]] (The rock group Green Day)
      An alt.config flamefest receiving occasional traffic.
    o [[alt.music.hardcore]] (Could be porno set to music)
      I'm told it's kind of like punk.
    o [[alt.music.harry-chapin]] (Discussion about the music and life of Harry
      Chapin)
      "Harry Chapin was a famous singer-songwriter best known for his `story
      songs'.  His most well known pieces include `Taxi', `W-O-L-D', and
      `Cat's in the Cradle'.  In addition to his music, he was also known for
      being one of the most politically active musicians of his generation,
      responsible for creating the World Hunger Year organization, and the
      President's Commission on World Hunger.  He was killed in a 1981 car
      accident on the Long Island Expressway.  Recently, he posthumously
      received a congressional gold medal of honor for his efforts towards
      ending world hunger." Brian <BriBieluch (at) aol(dot)com>.
    o [[alt.music.hawaiian]] (Discussion on Hawaiian music and artists)
    o [[alt.music.independent]] (Bands without contracts with the major
      labels)
      "alt.music.independent features discussions on independent and
      underground bands who choose to remain apart from major labels for
      various reasons." cholera <rockie (at) neurosis(dot)wariat(dot)org>.
    o [[alt.music.james-taylor]] (JT!)
      "With a career than spans more than twenty-five years, it's no great
      surprise that James Taylor's musical influence has reached just about
      every corner of the globe.  Since leading the singer-songwriter movement
      in the early 70s, JT has gone on to refine his style, changing over the
      years while still maintaining the musical craftsmanship that garnered so
      much attention early in his career." From the alt.music.james-taylor
      FAQ.
    o [[alt.music.janes-addictn]] (The music of Jane's Addiction and its
      members)
      "This group should serve as a forum for any and all discussions relating
      to the musicians in Jane's Addiction, Perry Farrell's random concepts,
      and the music that has moved so many people.  Jane's Addiction may have
      broken up in 1991, but their fans remain faithful to the music; Perry,
      Dave Navarro, Eric Avery and Steven Perkins will always be together on 3
      timeless albums." Rhiney <rhiney (at) netcom(dot)com>.
    o [[alt.music.jethro-tull]] (Ironman sitting on a park bench)
    o [[alt.music.jewish]] (Music from the Jewish heritage)
    o [[alt.music.jimi.hendrix]] ('Scuse me, while I kiss the sky)
    o [[alt.music.jon-spencer]] (Adulation of the Jon Spencer Blues Explosion)
      "The alt.music.jon-spencer newsgroup will be open to any and all
      discussion of the music of and information about The Jon Spencer Blues
      Explosion.  Discussion will include (but not be limited to):
        * Albums - People's thoughts on the various records
        * Related - Related bands (i.e.  The Jesus Lizard, et al)
        * General - Sightings, tour info, release dates, etc.
      This group is not affiliated with The Jon Spencer Blues Explosion or
      Matador Records, though input from either of those would be most
      appreciated." Pujeeb Rastanfani <s0n1c (at) ripco(dot)com>.
    o [[alt.music.journalism]] (Talk about talking about music)
    o [[alt.music.karaoke]] (Please make it stop!)
    o [[alt.music.kylie-minogue]] (Music of Kylie Minogue)
    o [[alt.music.led-zeppelin]] (Discussion about Led Zeppelin and their
      music)
    o [[alt.music.leonard-cohen]] ()
      Canadian poet, singer and songwriter.
    o [[alt.music.lor-mckennitt]] ()
      Canadian singer and songwriter.
    o [[alt.music.lyrics]] (Discussion of song lyrics)
      "Alt.music.lyrics is a forum for the discussion of all song lyrics.  The
      traffic predominantly consists of requests for lyrics and answers to
      those requests, denoted by 'REQ' and 'LYR' respectively in the Subject:
      lines of posts.  Other appropriate traffic includes any sort of
      discussion of song lyrics, including misheard lyrics, requests for
      translations, lyric-related humor, philosophical underpinnings of
      vocals, etc."
        * [[ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.answers/music/lyrics-faq]]
      Dave Filippi <dhalgren (at) netcom(dot)com>.
    o [[alt.music.makers.dj]] ()
    o [[alt.music.makers.electronic]] (The art of creating techno, ambient,
      etc)
    o [[alt.music.makers.woodwind]] ()
    o [[alt.music.marillion]] (A progressive band; the Silmarillion is a book)
    o [[alt.music.marilyn-manson]] (You've been a good little boy!)
    o [[alt.music.midi]] ()
    o [[alt.music.misc]] (Like rec.music.misc, only different)
    o [[alt.music.monkees]] (Hey, hey, they were the Monkees)
      "The Friendliest Place in Cyberspace![tm], this group has been
      officially declared a "flame-free zone".  It is dedicated to the
      discussion of The Monkees (Mike Nesmith, Peter Tork, Micky Dolenz, and
      Davy Jones) and their fans.  Discussion encompasses the past (TV,
      albums, concert performances, movie), the present (solo projects,
      personal appearances, reissues), and the future (???) of The Monkees, as
      well as fan experiences, debates over lyrics, the meaning of "Head", and
      other related topics."
        * [[http://www.primenet.com/~flex/monkees.html]]
      Torkaholic <torkhlic (at) ix(dot)netcom(dot)com>.
    o [[alt.music.moody-blues]] (Still In Search of the Lost Chord)
      "The Moody Blues are usually considered a 'classic rock' group, although
      their music is so diverse that it cannot really be placed into one
      category.  The Moodies have been highly successful in producing R&B,
      classical/progressive rock, and '80s' pop music.  The Moodies have sold
      over 55 million albums worldwide and are one of a small handful of
      groups to have a top-ten hit in each of three consecutive decades."
        * [[http://www.imsa.edu/~locutus/moody-blues.html]]";
      Michael Holl <locutus (at) imsa(dot)edu>.
    o [[alt.music.new-order]] (The music of New Order and its memebers)
      "New Order were formed from the ashes of Joy Division, after Ian Curtis
      commited suicide.  Recently the band has not been very active, although
      I think it has not been dissolved, and there are/have been 3 new bands:
        * Electronic (Bernard Summer, New Order singer and ...  + John Marr,
          Smiths guitar)
        * Revenge (Peter Hook, New Order bass)
        * The other two (the other 2 members of New Order whose names I can't
          remember at this time)"
      Rui Pedro Mendes Salgueiro <rps (at) mat(dot)uc(dot)pt>.
    o [[alt.music.nin]] (Nine Inch Nails, aka Trent Reznor)
      And other appearances by the nightmare that is Trent.
    o [[alt.music.nirvana]] (Generation X's Seattle leaders, leaderless)
    o [[alt.music.offspring]] ()
      "The band Offspring is basically the same punk-style as Green Day, but a
      bit more chaotic....  oh, they've sold about as many records."
      Christopher Bird <cbird (at) chat(dot)carleton(dot)ca>.
    o [[alt.music.orb]] (Little fluffy clouds...)
      "Discussion of the Orb, one of the best known ambient techno/dub groups,
      and their numerous spinoff projects (including System 7 and Fortran 5).
      The group is very poorly propagated and the Cumulonimbus list
      (orb-request (at) xmission(dot)com, I think) is a much better place for
      discussion." Gnosis <gnosis (at) brahman(dot)nullnet(dot)fi>.
    o [[alt.music.ozzy]] ()
    o [[alt.music.pantera]] (I'm broken)
    o [[alt.music.pat-mccurdy]] (Milwaukee's finest export)
      "Discussion, praise, worship and griping about Milwaukee's finest export
      (beer included).  Pat plays regularly in Chicago, Milwaukee, Madison,
      Green Bay, Minneapolis, and does the occasional college tour to parts
      beyond.  Four CDs out.  Wacky stuff.  Come find out about it." Colette
      D. Marine <cdm (at) nwu(dot)edu>.
    o [[alt.music.pat-metheny]] (The music of Pat Metheny and Group)
    o [[alt.music.paul-simon]] (Discussion of Paul Simon's music)
    o [[alt.music.pearl-jam]] (The music of the alternative rock band Pearl
      Jam)
      "This newsgroup was formed in late 1993 for discussion of all topics
      concerning the Seattle group, Pearl Jam.  Pearl Jam was formed in late
      1990 and includes band members Eddie Vedder, Stone Gossard, Mike
      McCready, Jeff Ament, and Jack Irons.  Topics of discussion have
      included lyrical interpretations, postings of newspaper and magazine
      articles, concert reviews, tour information, bootleg information tape
      trading, and just general information/comments about the band.  In
      addition, the newsgroup also has a Pearl Jam FAQ (Frequently Asked
      Questions), Discography, Songbook, and Tourbook files that are posted
      regularly on it."
        * [[http://www.engin.umich.edu/~galvin/pearljam.html]]
        * [[http://www.skypoint.com/members/calebl/gos.html]]
      Grace Mendoza <mendoz (at) vaxd(dot)gat(dot)com>.
    o [[alt.music.peter-gabriel]] (So, it's the music of Peter Gabriel, sans
      frontier)
    o [[alt.music.pink-floyd]] (Sold out shows everywhere)
    o [[alt.music.primus]] (Primus sucks)
      "The description line is a reference to one CD where the lead singer
      shouts 'We're Primus, we suck!' which has become an inside joke of sorts
      for Primus fans." Gnosis <gnosis (at) brahman(dot)nullnet(dot)fi>.
    o [[alt.music.prince]] (also applies to that Symbol Guy)
      "Prince Rogers Nelson in both his 'Prince' and 'O(+>' incarnations does
      more to generate controversy before breakfast than most artists do all
      day.  An excellent WWW resource is the New Power Network:"
        * [[http://morra.et.tudelft.nl/npn/]]
        * [[http://kluso.nosc.mil/npn/]]
      Bret Gorsline <bretg (at) iscp(dot)bellcore(dot)com>.
    o [[alt.music.producer]] (Discussion about record production and A&R)
    o [[alt.music.progressive]] (Progressive/Symphonic/Art Rock)
      "This newsgroup is for discussion of Progressive/Symphonic/Art rock
      groups like King Crimson, Yes, Genesis and other bands that stress
      complex/intricate music with "classical" influences.  It is not for
      Alternative/Progressive band discussions nor is it for Progressive Metal
      discussions (there are other newsgroups for those topics)." Ken Bibb
      <kbibb (at) qualcomm(dot)com>.
    o [[alt.music.psychedelic]] (Music appropriate to the psychedelic state)
      "Includes discussions of 'classic' psychedelia (early Floyd, 13th Floor
      Elevators, VU, the Dead, etc.) as well as more modern music (Butthole
      Surfers, Legendary Pink Dots, Ozrics, etc.) Hopefully not too much
      Floyd/Dead chat as they have their own groups!" Tom Ritchford
      <tom (at) mvision(dot)com>.
    o [[alt.music.queen]] (The music of Queen and its members)
      "This group is for discussion of the band Queen and the related solo
      projects by members Freddie Mercury, Brian May, Roger Taylor and John
      Deacon." Sheri <unicorn (at) rt66(dot)com>.
    o [[alt.music.ramones]] ()
      An American punk group, founded in the 1970s, yet still active today.
      They were featured in the movie "Rock 'n' Roll High School" and their
      best known songs include "Sheena Is a Punk Rocker," "Blitzkrieg Bop,"
      and "Pet Sematary."
    o [[alt.music.replacements]] (I'm in love - what's that song?)
      "The Replacements created some of the rawest and most uncompromising
      rock music of the 1980s.  The 'mats earned a reputation for being one of
      the finest and most unpredictable live acts of 1980s indie scene by
      juxtaposing cathartic, punk-influenced shows with drunken tomfoolery.
      Their ace in the hole was frontman Paul Westerberg, who perfectly
      articulated the ambivalence and alienation of growing up in the 1980s."
      Lynne Barkett <coonbark (at) netcom(dot)com>.
    o [[alt.music.rockabilly]] ()
    o [[alt.music.roger-waters]] (To Pink or Not to Pink)
    o [[alt.music.rush]] (For Rushheads)
    o [[alt.music.s-mclachlan]] (A Touch of Solace in Ecstasy)
      Canadian singer, songwriter, and general goddess Sarah McLachlan.  Does
      this include much general Nettwerk (her label) discussion?
    o [[alt.music.seal]] (Discussions & news about the British
      musician/singer/ songwriter, Seal)
      The following information was provided by Gareth Edwards
      <config (at) ultim(dot)demon(dot)co(dot)uk>:
        * [[http://www.cis.yale.edu/~ariedels/seal.html]]
        * [[ftp://xmission.com/pub/users/eheintz/text/seal]]
      The ftp site contains plain text versions of the FAQ, lyrics and
      discography which are available on the Future Love Paradise WWW site.
    o [[alt.music.ska]] (Discussions of ska (skank) music, bands, and
      suchlike)
      "Ska is dance music, first and foremost.  Ska was a Jamaican dance music
      that swept out of Jamaica in the early 1960s to shake the butts of
      working- and middle-class Jamaicans before going on, via the West Indian
      immigrant connection, to the UK, and then on to the world.  In the UK,
      ska was also known as `blue beat' music.  Rocksteady, and later, reggae
      sprang from the loins of ska in the late 1960s.  Mid-1970s and
      1980s/1990s revivals of this popular dance form have kept this music
      alive and fun through the present.  The ska beat on drums and bass,
      rhythm guitar, lots of horns and maybe a Hammond organ --- that's the
      ska sound."
        * [[ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.answers/music/ska-faq/]]
        * 
[[http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/music/ska-faq/top.html]]
      Tomas Willis <tomas (at) cae(dot)wisc(dot)edu>.
    o [[alt.music.smash-pumpkins]] (The Smashing Pumpkins)
    o [[alt.music.smiths]] ()
      Discussion of the now-defunct British band and the solo career of its
      singer Morrissey.
    o [[alt.music.sondheim]] (Life and music of Stephen Sondheim)
      "This group is for the discussion of the life and music of Stephen
      Sondheim, called by some 'the greatest composer in musical theatre.' He
      is known for his unorthodox use of both music and lyrics, and has had a
      prolific and active career." Andrew Stephen Damick
      <asdamick (at) unity(dot)ncsu(dot)edu>.
    o [[alt.music.sonic-youth]] (Loud enough to make you deaf)
    o [[alt.music.sophie-hawkins]] (News & Discussions on Sophie B. Hawkins)
    o [[alt.music.soul]] (Soul, rhythm, and blues)
      The discussion pertains to the genre of music equivalent to rhythm and
      blues.
    o [[alt.music.soundgarden]] (The rock group Soundgarden)
    o [[alt.music.stone-roses]] (The Past Is Yours But the Future's Mine)
      "This group exists for the discussion of the music of and information
      about the Stone Roses.  Discussion will include people's thoughts on
      their music releases and related music (i.e.  other Manchester bands)
      and general information on the band such as sightings, band shakeups,
      interviews, release dates, and tour info." Jeannie Fromer
      <jeannie (at) ctr(dot)columbia(dot)edu>.
    o [[alt.music.stone-temple]] (The group Stone Temple Pilots)
    o [[alt.music.swedish-pop]] (ABBA and beyond)
    o [[alt.music.sylvian]] ()
    o [[alt.music.synthpop]] (Depeche Mode, Erasure, Pet Shop Boys, and much
      more!)
    o [[alt.music.tape-culture]] (Casette tape-oriented independent music
      scene)
      "There is a large following for the underground D.I.Y. (Do It Yourself)
      tape scene and this newsgroup is here to discuss the music, artists and
      tape labels of that scene." Allyson Goble <ajgoble (at) ucdavis(dot)edu>.
    o [[alt.music.techno]] (Bring on the bass!)
    o [[alt.music.texas]] (Discussion of music from Texas)
      "This group basically is for discussing the music and artists from
      Texas.  Although any form of music is welcome, the group will mainly
      focus on the rock scene.  This includes Tripping daisy, The Toadies, MC
      900 ft.  Jesus, Pantera, and anybody else from the area." Bill Baumbach
      <baumbach (at) pic(dot)net>.
    o [[alt.music.the-doors]] (Rock group The Doors and its members)
      "This group was created in early 1994 to provide a forum for the
      discussion and exchange of questions, ideas, views and information about
      anything to do with The Doors.  Most threads are about the lead singer,
      Jim Morrison, but discussion of all members of the band are encouraged.
      The group was comprised of Jim Morrison (vocals), Ray Manzarek
      (keyboards), Robby Krieger (guitar) and John Densmore (drums).  Traffic
      is steady but of low-volume.  Most postings seem to be from a small but
      dedicated group of Doors fans." Dave Thompson
      <ar025 (at) freenet(dot)carleton(dot)ca>.
    o [[alt.music.tmbg]] (The group They Might Be Giants)
    o [[alt.music.todd-rundgren]] (Todd Rundgren music fandom)
    o [[alt.music.tragically-hip]] (The rock group The Tragically Hip)
      Another Canadian band.
    o [[alt.music.u2]] (The rock group U2)
    o [[alt.music.van-halen]] (For discussion of topics related to Van Halen)
    o [[alt.music.video-games]] ()
    o [[alt.music.ween]] (Marble Tulip Juicy Tree)
        * [[http://nyx10.cs.du.edu:8001/~kkoller/]]
    o [[alt.music.weird-al]] (The parodist Weird Al Yankovic)
    o [[alt.music.who]] (Rock group The Who and its members)
    o [[alt.music.world]] (Folk/traditional music from around the world)
    o [[alt.music.yes]] (The progressive band Yes)
    o [[alt.music.yngwie]] (Talk about Yngwie J. Malmsteen)
______________________________________________________________________________

How To Create a Newsgroup For a Musical Artist

The purpose of this mini-faq is to help people who want to create
newsgroups for their favourite artists/bands avoid the flamefest of
alt.config, and the poor propagation of alt.music.  Taking this route will
require an investment of three months to a year before you have a newsgroup,
but if the fandom really exists, then it will be worth it.

  1. Create a mailing list.  For a list of mailing list providers, see
     [[http://www.cs.ubc.ca/spider/edmonds/usenet/ml-providers.txt]].
  2. Advertise it every few weeks in the appropriate related alt.music
     groups, and in [[rec.music.info]].  An informative and well written
     advert of a paragraph or two (with CLEAR subscription instructions)
     will be more likely to attract positive attention than a "Hey, join
     my k00l list" type posting.
  3. While it is growing, familiarize yourself with the Big-7 newsgroup
     creation guidelines, found in [[news.announce.newgroups]].  Reading
     [[news.groups]] for a month or two will also be helpful.  Make sure
     that you stay active on the mailing list to maintain a steady traffic
     and keep people interested -- interesting lists grow fast.
  4. Wait until your mailing list has a few hundred members.  I would
     suggest 200 as a minimum, and 500 being almost a sure thing.
  5. If the list never gets this many readers, then there probably aren't
     as many fans on the net as you thought.  At this point, you can go
     propose an alt.music group, or (more sensibly, I think) stick with
     the mailing list.
  6. Submit an RFD for the group under rec.music[.artists].  Come up with
     a good name, and make sure the RFD/CFV are posted to your mailing
     list, and encourage members to vote.  If you can get a few hundred
     yes votes from the list, then you're almost guaranteed to get a group
     with worldwide propagation.
  7. Suggestion: arranging to turn the mailing list into a gateway for
     newsgroup once created will help in avoiding negative votes from
     members of the list who cannot receive news directly.

If you're new to finding/creating musical resources on the net, check out the
following FAQ:
    o [[http://www.cs.ubc.ca/spider/edmonds/usenet/musical-info.txt]]
    o send email to [[majordomo (at) edmonds(dot)home(dot)cs(dot)ubc(dot)ca]] 
with the following
      line in the body of the message: get faq musical-info.txt

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How To Create an Alt Group

For complete information on creating an alt group, please refer to
the alt group creation FAQ, which is available as follows:
    o [[WWW]]: http://www.pop.psu.edu/~barr/alt-creation-guide.html
    o [[FTP]]: anonymous (at) rtfm(dot)mit(dot)edu
      /pub/usenet/alt.config/So_You_Want_to_Create_an_Alt_Newsgroup
    o [[email]]: majordomo (at) pop(dot)psu(dot)edu with "get file 
alt-creation-guide" in
      the message body
______________________________________________________________________________

How To Find Music Mailing Lists

If you would like a copy of the latest version of Myra Wong's List
of Music Mailing Lists, send email to
<[[majordomo (at) edmonds(dot)home(dot)cs(dot)ubc(dot)ca]]> with the line "get 
faq lomml.txt"
in the body of the message.

This document is also available from:
    o finger ayukawa (at) server(dot)berkeley(dot)edu
    o [[ftp://server.berkeley.edu/pub/misc/lomml]]
    o [[http://server.berkeley.edu/~ayukawa/lomml.html]]

Thanks to Scott Southwick <scotty (at) ancho(dot)ucs(dot)indiana(dot)edu> for 
pointing
out that Indiana University also maintains a searchable archive of over 9000
mailing lists.  It is accessible on the web at:
    o [[http://scwww.ucs.indiana.edu/mlarchive/]]
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