[HANASHIR:3308] Re: Ten Lo Mishelo

[Meris Ruzow <meris...>]

I think if you contact Camp Harlam, a uahc reform camp in PA, and ask them
about the song, Ten Lo Mishelo, they were the ones that put out a small
music book a few years ago for their campers when my son attended their
camp.  I'm pretty sure now that that's where I got the song.
Good luck,
Meris
-----Original Message-----
From: Ilan D Glazer <idg1 (at) columbia(dot)edu>
To: hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org <hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org>
Date: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 12:25 AM
Subject: [HANASHIR:3306] Re: Ten Lo Mishelo


>The difference in Ki Va Moed and Ki Ba Moed is dependent on which tense of
>the verb you are using and which letter of the Hebrew alphabet as well.
>When you say Ki Va Moed, you are using the letter Vet (third letter of
>Hebrew alphabet,  Aleph, Bet, Vet) and it means that the appointed time
>for rejoicing, or the holiday time has come (Moed means holiday,
>celebration time etc.).  Thus, Ki Va Moed means the time to rejoice has
>come, messiah has come, and all that fun stuff.
>
>Ki Ba Moed is different. It uses a bet (second letter) and it means that
>the appointed time WILL come (has yet to come) ie. the appointed time has
>not yet arrived ie. the Messiah has not yet come.
>
>Most people on today's planet with the exception of some of Chabad
>lubavitch and many but not all Christian sects (and you could argue Islam
>as well but that's another argument) would say that the Messiah has NOT
>yet come, therefore Ki Ba Moed, the Moed is coming, the time is soon near,
>mashicach is coming, etc.
>
>however, whatever text that Shlomo carlebach got the song from (and I
>don't know the exact citation) obviously the writer of that text, or the
>editor, whoever arranged it obviously felt that the time of the Messiah
>and rejoicing HAD come, and therefore everyone should get up and sins and
>rejoice.
>
>In case you are wondering, the difference between the two essentially lies
>in the dot found in the bet (and missing from the vet).  The dot is called
>a mapik and as you can tell frommy explanation, has tremendous importance
>to the Hebrew language (usually).
>
>Hope this helps things along.  It's good to see my grammar (dikduk)
>learned at the Seminary (JTS) hasn't gone completely to waste.
>
>
>Kol Tuv (be well),
>
>Ilan Glazer
>New York, NY (but Jerusalem as of Thursday and until CAJE-Yippee!)
>
>
>

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