HANASHIR Digest 486
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) Welcome
by "Troy M. Miller" <TMM (at) oz(dot)sunflower(dot)org>
2) Mir'yam han'vi-a
by Carole Rivel <crivel (at) cloud9(dot)net>
3) Re: Judy Caplan Ginsburgh
by Rglauber (at) aol(dot)com
4) Re: Judy Caplan Ginsburgh
by Judy Caplan Ginsburgh <jerd (at) centuryinter(dot)net>
5) Re: Songs about Miriam
by Amgo (at) aol(dot)com
6) song lyrics
by "Shmuel and Shoshana Arnold" <darnold (at) aquanet(dot)co(dot)il>
7) Gospel Dancing Prayers
by Jess (at) scocon(dot)demon(dot)co(dot)uk (Red Sea Blue)
8) Re: Dancing Prayers
by Rachelle and Howard Shubert <shubert (at) internauts(dot)ca>
9) Re: Dancing Prayers
by Chazzzan (at) aol(dot)com
10) Re: Dancing Prayers
by Chazzzan (at) aol(dot)com
11) Re: Gospel Dancing Prayers
by Chazzzan (at) aol(dot)com
12) Re: HN this year
by Chazzzan (at) aol(dot)com
13) Re: Dancing Prayers
by Rachelle and Howard Shubert <shubert (at) internauts(dot)ca>
Subject: [HANASHIR:2486] Welcome
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 14:28:40 -0600
From: "Troy M. Miller" <TMM (at) oz(dot)sunflower(dot)org>
To: "Hanashir - Shamash" <hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org>
Hello:
Adrian introduced
me to you earlier today and I, Troy Miller, am pleased to be a member of
your list.
First, as mentioned,
Debbie Friedman will be participating in our Ivanhoe Benefit Concert on
May 16 at the World Headquarters of the RLDS Church, along with the Queen
of Gospel, Albertina Walker, and a host of choirs. What is unique
about this experience is that it is the first time that these three denominations
have come together, across unique cultural boundaries, to work together
for a common cause. We expect to have 600-700 choir members on stage singing
with the stars, as well as singing music representative of their own traditions.
The event is being named after Debbie's new song, Build This World Together,
which is being "Gospelized further" by Dr. Michael Charles of St. James
United Methodist Church for this quantity of gospel singers. The event
is being recorded with the hope of international broadcast at a later date.
A brief note
on Adrian's request of how Debbie became involved. I was attending a renewal
service Debbie was leading approximately a year ago, and mentioned to her
the project I was working on which exchanged singers between our Temple's
choir and a African-American Gospel choir. She told me that she had written
Build This World Together, which would be perfect for a Gospel Choir.
One thing led to another and here she is, helping our cause. (A short aside:
Some of you might have read an article in the KC Star entitled "Shout Hallelujah"
wherein they mentioned that Debbie had been holding this song, essentially
waiting for a Gospel Choir for five years - Well, I have learned a lesson
in that reporters take things out of context and piece them together, for
this I never mentioned that statement to the reporter!)
Concerning the
unique exchange program, you may read about it at:
http://www.kcstar.com/sbin/iarecord?NS-doc-path=/vol1/pubs/archive-98/9803/980321/980321.028&NS-collection=archive-98&NS-search-set=/var/tmp/36f16/aaaa001FBf16131&NS-doc-offset=1&
If you have questions
about my experiences, I will be happy to answer them.
L'shalom
Troy
Subject: [HANASHIR:2487] Mir'yam han'vi-a
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 18:05:20 -0500
From: Carole Rivel <crivel (at) cloud9(dot)net>
To: "hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org" <hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org>
In response to several requests, here is the transliterated version of
Mir'yam, as taken from the Ma'yan Haggadah.
Mir'yam han'vi-a, oz v'zimra b'yada
Mir'yam, tirkod itanu, l'hagdil zimrat olam.
Mir'yam tirkod itanu, l'takein et ha-olam.
Bim'heira v'yameinu, hi t'vi-einu.
El mei ha-y'shua, el mei ha-y'shua.
Miriam the Prophet, strength and song are in her hand. Miriam will dance
with us to strenghen the world's song. Miriam will dance with us to heal
the world. Soon, and in our time, she will lead us to the waters of
salvation.
Subject: [HANASHIR:2488] Re: Judy Caplan Ginsburgh
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 18:31:54 EST
From: Rglauber (at) aol(dot)com
To: hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org
Judy,
Congratulations for the tremendous honor you are about to receive. I'm sure
that I'm not alone in feeling very proud of you. It's awesome for you
personally, and for Jewish music as well. Way to go!
How amazing that it comes at the very time that the new JERD book is making
its way into print. It's as though you were being rewarded for all of your
good work on several fronts. (I'd call it "karma" but I don't know if that's
kosher for this list)
Kol Hakavod, and thanks for all that you have done, and are doing for Jewish
music.
Rich Glauber
Subject: [HANASHIR:2489] Re: Judy Caplan Ginsburgh
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 17:52:57 -0600
From: Judy Caplan Ginsburgh <jerd (at) centuryinter(dot)net>
To: hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org
Rich,
Thanks for your good wishes. I am very proud of the honor and that I must be the
first Jew to ever receive it.
Judy : )
Rglauber (at) aol(dot)com wrote:
> Judy,
>
> Congratulations for the tremendous honor you are about to receive. I'm sure
> that I'm not alone in feeling very proud of you. It's awesome for you
> personally, and for Jewish music as well. Way to go!
>
> How amazing that it comes at the very time that the new JERD book is making
> its way into print. It's as though you were being rewarded for all of your
> good work on several fronts. (I'd call it "karma" but I don't know if that's
> kosher for this list)
>
> Kol Hakavod, and thanks for all that you have done, and are doing for Jewish
> music.
>
> Rich Glauber
>
--
Judy Caplan Ginsburgh, Award-winning Singer/Music Specialist
http://www.jewishentertainment.net/judy
Director: Jewish Entertainment Resources
http://www.jewishentertainment.net
Cantorial Soloist, Touro Synagogue, New Orleans, LA
Past Conference Chair: 23rd Conference on Alternatives in Jewish Education
Subject: [HANASHIR:2490] Re: Songs about Miriam
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 01:18:08 EST
From: Amgo (at) aol(dot)com
To: hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org
One version of Miriam Hanevi'ah, (there are a few) with words in Hebrew and
English and transliteration by Leila Gal Berner, can be found in the "Kol
Haneshamah" siddur (published by the Reconstructionist Press) in the Havdalah
service. Rabbi Jack Gabriel's "A Web of Women" is wonderful, and is on his
tape "Astonishing Is God"
Subject: [HANASHIR:2491] song lyrics
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 11:12:31 +0200
From: "Shmuel and Shoshana Arnold" <darnold (at) aquanet(dot)co(dot)il>
To: <hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org>
Hi,
I'm looking for the lyrics of
a song I heard while growing up.
I only remember a few bits and
pieces.
The song is about the Holocaust I think.
If anyone can help, please respond.
Shoshana
---------
Chorus:
Memories as they grow older
tend to grow colder
and then disappear
.....
Though you've never met me,
you must remember me
now that I'm gone.
Think of the .... that you have missed.
Think of the grandfather you've never kissed.
Open your heart before it's too late.........
Subject: [HANASHIR:2492] Gospel Dancing Prayers
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 11:56:22 +0000
From: Jess (at) scocon(dot)demon(dot)co(dot)uk (Red Sea Blue)
To: hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org
Its March. Spring is coming, along with our zman cheirutainu. Opening buds,
rising sap, children playing in the park. But musings aside....
I was just in New York also, doing various things, one of which was
attending the Ma'yan feminist seder. Quite a fabulous experience, the
energy and the celebration by over 500 women and some representative men
was as good as Hava Nashira, although of course very different. Lots of
prayer dancing there, in between maztzah and maror.
But the reason I am writing was more about how on my journey home I was
queueing up (standing on line) waiting to check in. Being a chatty kind of
person, and as I was travelling on my own, I made friendly overtures to the
woman in front of me. I asked her whether she had celebrated St Patrick's
day in New York and she informed me that she didn't drink on religious
grounds. She was Christian and very mellow. So we got chatting.
At one point I asked her whether she liked dancing. She hesitated and then
she said that she did, although she didn't 'go out' dancing. She said that
they danced in church. I said, what every week or just on special
occasions. She said EACH TIME THAT THEY GET TOGETHER TO PRAY. I was
impressed and slightly jealous. She was black Nigerian, on her way back
home via England. Maybe its a temperament thing. She seemed very mellow,
easy going character.
I play practically every Friday night at my shool and no-one ever dances.
We only started singing properly in the past year or so. If someone would
get up and dance I imagine some people would like, ney love, it and others
would be very shocked and might even find it disrespectful. Maybe people
are too busy and stressed, this inhibits movement. I'm sure we would feel
better after a little dancing and singing. Maybe I will just have to lay my
guitar down and dance myself.
If any of this seems hazy, its because I only landed this morning and I'm a
bit hazy.
love and Shabbat Shalom
Jess
Subject: [HANASHIR:2493] Re: Dancing Prayers
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 10:01:12 -0500 (EST)
From: Rachelle and Howard Shubert <shubert (at) internauts(dot)ca>
To: hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org
In response to Jess's musings regarding dance as spiritual _expression_, it is
my understanding that it is very much in our traditions. (Can someone more
knowledgeable than I comment on this?) However, I think if the whole
congregation were invited to dance, without instruction, it would intimidate
and alienate many (including me). I would suggest it start as an activity
for a synagogue group -- e.g. sisterhood, brotherhood, Rosh Chodesh or study
group -- who could invite a dance specialist to devise and teach easy
steps/body movements to the music or help participants improvise within a
certain structure. There was a similar activity at one of our temple's Rosh
Chodesh groups and it was wonderful. It reminded me a bit of a cross
between folk and sufi dancing.
I have never thought that holding oneself stiffly contributed to any kind
of spiritual feeling. I am encouraging my new adult volunteer choir (who
will be singing for the first time tonight) to sway and express joy while
singing.
Rachelle
Subject: [HANASHIR:2494] Re: Dancing Prayers
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 10:28:46 EST
From: Chazzzan (at) aol(dot)com
To: hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org
Rachelle, I assume that the phrase you used -- "holding oneself stiffly"
{during prayer} -- was an oblique reference to the traditional method of
davening and "shuckling." This idea is a misunderstanding...in ALL the
traditional services I have attended, there is RARELY anyone who is holding
himself or herself stiffly. Rather, some are quite animated in how much they
move, and devote their whole bodies to the meditative prayer experience.
What city do you live in? Have you ever been to an Orthodox or Chabad
service?
Shabbat Shalom
Brian
Subject: [HANASHIR:2495] Re: Dancing Prayers
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 10:31:59 EST
From: Chazzzan (at) aol(dot)com
To: hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org
Also....in most synagogues I have visited, dancing is perfectly acceptable at
certain points, like during the welcoming of Shabbat during Lecha Dodi...
Subject: [HANASHIR:2496] Re: Gospel Dancing Prayers
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 10:41:52 EST
From: Chazzzan (at) aol(dot)com
To: hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org
Jess, the prayer experience should be a remedy and CURE for stress, not
stress-provoking.
Your prescription for movement during prayer is great, Dr. Jess!
Brian
Subject: [HANASHIR:2497] Re: HN this year
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 10:42:44 EST
From: Chazzzan (at) aol(dot)com
To: hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org
I did not get my invitation to Hava, did any of you? I heard that they were
mailed.
Brian
Subject: [HANASHIR:2498] Re: Dancing Prayers
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 11:19:47 -0500 (EST)
From: Rachelle and Howard Shubert <shubert (at) internauts(dot)ca>
To: hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org
No, it is not a reference to traditional davening -- quite the opposite, Brian.
Rachelle
At 10:28 19/03/99 EST, Chazzzan (at) aol(dot)com wrote:
>Rachelle, I assume that the phrase you used -- "holding oneself stiffly"
>{during prayer} -- was an oblique reference to the traditional method of
>davening and "shuckling." This idea is a misunderstanding...in ALL the
>traditional services I have attended, there is RARELY anyone who is holding
>himself or herself stiffly. Rather, some are quite animated in how much they
>move, and devote their whole bodies to the meditative prayer experience.
>
>What city do you live in? Have you ever been to an Orthodox or Chabad
>service?
>
>Shabbat Shalom
>
>Brian
>
>
>
