[HANASHIR:1823] RE: Xtians

[Judy Git <hillel...>]

Brian,

As a now regular (and mashochistic) poster in the Jewish/Christian forum
in JCN, I would LOVE to be able to copy and paste your comment here in
there. (Or would you like to do it yourself??)  But I won't do so - with
or without your name - without your permission.  That forum could very
much use a bit of livening up!

Judy

Serle, Brian wrote:

>
>
> Adrian, I have often heard our Gentile brethren (and sistren) referred
> to as Xtians.  This makes them sound like aliens (like X-files, the
> Mysterians, etc.).  Is there a better way to refer to them than this?
> Do we use the "X" to avoid the use of the word of Greek derivation
> that means "messiah" or "anointed one"?  If so, I don't believe "X" is
> a good euphemism.  After all, don't they use it themselves, in such
> terms as "Xmas"?  Why not just call them what they are - heretics,
> apostates, original sinners?   JUST KIDDING!
>
> Shabbat Shalom!
>
> Brian
>
>      -----Original Message-----
>      From:   Serle, Brian [SMTP:BSerle (at) ziegler(dot)com]
>      Sent:   Thursday, November 19, 1998 4:39 PM
>      To:     'hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org'
>      Subject:        [HANASHIR:1808]  RE: the Millenium crazies
>
>      Adrian, ANY place is warmer than FARGO!  Nashville must be BALMY
>      by comparison to ND!
>
>      Brian, shivering in Milwaukee.
>
>      -----Original Message-----
>      From:   Adrian A. Durlester [SMTP:durleste (at) home(dot)com]
>      Sent:   Thursday, November 19, 1998 4:37 PM
>      To:     hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org
>      Subject:        [HANASHIR:1807]  RE: the Millenium crazies
>
>      Off topic, scmoff topic. It's MY list, and as Mel Brooks said in
>      "History of the World Part I":
>
>      "It's good to be da king."
>
>      Adrian (who is in a really good mood because school is off until
>      after T-day, and because he is going to a nice warm place for a
>      while-and I don't mean Sheol.)
>           -----Original Message-----
>           From: owner-hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org [
>           mailto:owner-hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org]On Behalf Of Serle, Brian
>           Sent: Thursday, November 19, 1998 2:55 PM
>           To: 'hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org'
>           Subject: [HANASHIR:1806] RE: the Millenium crazies
>
>           Adrian, still off topic for the list, but you are right!
>           Even the State of Israel Tourism organization is promoting
>           Armageddon tours for next year in the plains of Megiddo,
>           where the final wars between Gog and Magog and civilization
>           as we know it will take place.  OY VEY!
>
>           Brian
>
>           -----Original Message-----
>           From:   Adrian A. Durlester [SMTP:durleste (at) home(dot)com]
>           Sent:   Thursday, November 19, 1998 2:52 PM
>           To:     hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org
>           Subject:        [HANASHIR:1805]  RE: the spelling of
>           Millenium
>
>           Well, yes and no...immersed as I am currently studying
>           apocalyptic
>           literature in the Jewish tradition.....
>
>           While there's nothing special about millennial milestones in
>           Judaism, there
>           is certainly a substantial apocalyptic and eschatological
>           tradition. One the
>           Xtians may have borrowed and built on, but definitely of
>           Jewish origin. When
>           the exiles got back from Babylon and saw the promises of the
>           Prophets not
>           fulfilled, they had two choices: decide the prophets had
>           been false
>           prophets, or; invent apocalyptic literature and say "the
>           prophets were
>           really talking about a future a long time away, not just a
>           few decades."
>
>           And it is a Jewish problem because Xtians are using it to
>           justify their push
>           to convert the Jews so the rapture can come.
>
>           Also, I imagine that in there is probably some numerical and
>           gematriacal
>           significance to 5760 and 5761 as there could be with just
>           about any other
>           number.
>
>           Xtians have also co-opted the whole Jubilee Year of Medinat
>           Israel thing and
>           turned it into some crazed messianic concept.
>
>           The crazies are coming out of the woodwork at the new
>           millenium approaches.
>
>           Adrian
>
>           -----Original Message-----
>           From: owner-hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org [
>           mailto:owner-hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org]On
>           Behalf Of QuelliPG (at) aol(dot)com
>           Sent: Thursday, November 19, 1998 11:26 AM
>           To: hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org
>           Subject: [HANASHIR:1801] RE: the spelling of Millenium
>
>           neither 5760 nor 5761 have any particular
>           significance...this whole
>           millennium
>           hype is the Christians' problem!
>