[HANASHIR:1821] RE: Xtians

[Serle, Brian <BSerle...>]

Adrian, I have often heard our Gentile brethren (and sistren) referred
to as Xtians.  This makes them sound like aliens (like X-files, the
Mysterians, etc.).  Is there a better way to refer to them than this?
Do we use the "X" to avoid the use of the word of Greek derivation that
means "messiah" or "anointed one"?  If so, I don't believe "X" is a good
euphemism.  After all, don't they use it themselves, in such terms as
"Xmas"?  Why not just call them what they are - heretics, apostates,
original sinners?   JUST KIDDING!

Shabbat Shalom!

Brian

        -----Original Message-----
        From:   Serle, Brian [SMTP:BSerle (at) ziegler(dot)com]
        Sent:   Thursday, November 19, 1998 4:39 PM
        To:     'hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org'
        Subject:        [HANASHIR:1808]  RE: the Millenium crazies

        Adrian, ANY place is warmer than FARGO!  Nashville must be BALMY
by comparison to ND! 

        Brian, shivering in Milwaukee. 

        -----Original Message----- 
        From:   Adrian A. Durlester [SMTP:durleste (at) home(dot)com] 
        Sent:   Thursday, November 19, 1998 4:37 PM 
        To:     hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org 
        Subject:        [HANASHIR:1807]  RE: the Millenium crazies 

        Off topic, scmoff topic. It's MY list, and as Mel Brooks said in
"History of the World Part I": 
          
        "It's good to be da king." 
          
        Adrian (who is in a really good mood because school is off until
after T-day, and because he is going to a nice warm place for a
while-and I don't mean Sheol.)

                -----Original Message-----
                From: owner-hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org [
mailto:owner-hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org]On Behalf Of Serle, Brian
                Sent: Thursday, November 19, 1998 2:55 PM
                To: 'hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org'
                Subject: [HANASHIR:1806] RE: the Millenium crazies
                
                

                Adrian, still off topic for the list, but you are right!
Even the State of Israel Tourism organization is promoting Armageddon
tours for next year in the plains of Megiddo, where the final wars
between Gog and Magog and civilization as we know it will take place. 
OY VEY!

                Brian 

                -----Original Message-----
                From:   Adrian A. Durlester [SMTP:durleste (at) home(dot)com]
                Sent:   Thursday, November 19, 1998 2:52 PM
                To:     hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org
                Subject:        [HANASHIR:1805]  RE: the spelling of
Millenium 

                Well, yes and no...immersed as I am currently studying
apocalyptic
                literature in the Jewish tradition..... 

                While there's nothing special about millennial
milestones in Judaism, there
                is certainly a substantial apocalyptic and
eschatological tradition. One the
                Xtians may have borrowed and built on, but definitely of
Jewish origin. When
                the exiles got back from Babylon and saw the promises of
the Prophets not
                fulfilled, they had two choices: decide the prophets had
been false
                prophets, or; invent apocalyptic literature and say "the
prophets were
                really talking about a future a long time away, not just
a few decades." 

                And it is a Jewish problem because Xtians are using it
to justify their push
                to convert the Jews so the rapture can come. 

                Also, I imagine that in there is probably some numerical
and gematriacal
                significance to 5760 and 5761 as there could be with
just about any other
                number. 

                Xtians have also co-opted the whole Jubilee Year of
Medinat Israel thing and
                turned it into some crazed messianic concept. 

                The crazies are coming out of the woodwork at the new
millenium approaches. 

                Adrian 

                -----Original Message-----
                From: owner-hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org [
mailto:owner-hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org]On
                Behalf Of QuelliPG (at) aol(dot)com
                Sent: Thursday, November 19, 1998 11:26 AM
                To: hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org
                Subject: [HANASHIR:1801] RE: the spelling of Millenium 


                neither 5760 nor 5761 have any particular
significance...this whole
                millennium
                hype is the Christians' problem!