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[HANASHIR:12175] Re: V'ahavtah and trope



As long as it's internally consistent (e.g. NOT repeating a munach where it 
doesn't exist in the text), it will teach them how trope works.  Changing the 
particular motifs (as we do for HHD, Purim, etc.) isn't usually a problem.  
But, if it is, having a Bar/Bat Mitzvah use a different trope than what is 
usually heard in a particular synagogue, if done well, can be a joy.

Michael


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> Date: Tuesday, 10-Sep-02 11:09 PM
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> From: Batiya5723 (at) cs(dot)com        \ Internet:    (batiya5723 (at) 
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> Subject:  [HANASHIR:12173] Re: V'ahavtah and trope
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> In a message dated 9/10/2002 6:50:38 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
> sholom (at) aishdas(dot)org writes: 
> > In fact, there's a great benefit to learning V'ahavtah by rote (if it is 
> > correctly done according to the trope) and that is: teaching trope to 
> > someone _after_ they have learned the V'ahavta can be much easier -- 
> > because they already know some of the notes, the modality, etc etc.
> 
> Yes, but WHICH trope? As a new Hebrew tutor I am constantly frustrated 
> because kids learn different versions of this chant at their respective 
> synagogues. SInce I am also just learning how to read cantillation markings 
I 
> am working to nail down the "version" taught at my synagogue; but the 
> difference between, say, my local Reforn temple's approach and the 
> Reconstructionist shul down the street is HUGE. 
> Suggestions welcome.
> Thanks --Beth Hamon
> 
> 
> <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT  SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" 
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> LANG="0">In a message dated 9/10/2002 6:50:38 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> sholom (at) aishdas(dot)org writes: <BR>
> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 
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> MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">In fact, there's a great benefit to
> learning V'ahavtah by rote (if it is <BR>
> correctly done according to the trope) and that is: teaching trope to <BR>
> someone _after_ they have learned the V'ahavta can be much easier -- <BR>
> because they already know some of the notes, the modality, etc
> etc.</BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
> <BR>
> Yes, but WHICH trope? As a new Hebrew tutor I am constantly frustrated 
because
> kids learn different versions of this chant at their respective synagogues.
> SInce I am also just learning how to read cantillation markings I am 
working to
> nail down the "version" taught at my synagogue; but the difference between,
> say, my local Reforn temple's approach and the Reconstructionist shul down 
the
> street is HUGE. <BR>
> Suggestions welcome.<BR>
> Thanks --Beth Hamon</FONT></HTML>
> 
> 

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