[HANASHIR:11417] Re: v'sham'ru pronunciation

[Jennifer Stevens <srtalina...>]

Note: slightly off the general topic of music, but relevant in that we need 
to sing words with the correct diction/pronunciation

Andy and group,

As some of you probably know, there are rules about when a kamatz is a 
kamatz (gadol?) and when a kamatz is a kamatz katan.  The rules are a bit 
tricky to learn, but not so bad once you know them.

I don't remember all of the rules, but something which can help is to think 
if you know a related word to the one in question.  For example, we should 
say "kodsh'cha" rather than "kadsh'cha".  If you remember that "kodsh'cha" 
is related to "kodesh", then you'll probably remember to say "kodsh'cha".  
Of course, if you instead remember that "kodsh'cha" is also related to 
"kaddish"... I'm sure you see the dilemma.

In any case, if you are curious to learn the rules of kamatz (as well as 
sheva'im, dag'shim, and other fun stuff), you may want to look for a Hebrew 
textbook at your local university bookstore.  Also, the Adult Hebrew Primer 
(local Judaica store) may have some helpful hints.

Back to music,
Jennifer


>From: Andy Curry <acurry (at) lenexa(dot)sema(dot)slb(dot)com>
>Reply-To: hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org
>To: hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org
>Subject: [HANASHIR:11416] Re: v'sham'ru pronunciation
>Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 09:07:14 -0700
>Jennifer, your Hebrew teacher was correct about "b'gov-hey".  Some sidurim
>print the kamatz katan, GOP does not; if not, how is the regular guy
>supposed to know whether a kamatz is katan or not?
>
>Andy
>
>At 09:24 AM 4/25/02 -0400, Jennifer wrote:
> >I would need to see the Hebrew (which I sadly do not have at my office).
> >However, I believe you can use this guideline for the word - if there is 
>a
> >dagesh (dot) in the shin, then you should pronounce it hashe'vi-i.  If 
>there
> >is not a dagesh, then you would pronounce it hash'vi'i.
> >
> >Personally, I've always heard it said as the latter, but I also hear
> >"b'gav-hei" in the Aleinu when my Hebrew teacher told me it should be
> >"b'gov-hei".
> >
> >Good luck!
> >Jennifer
>
>Andy Curry, Kansas City
>acurry (at) lenexa(dot)sema(dot)slb(dot)com
>
>






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