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[HANASHIR:10910] Re: Adon Olam to Rock Around the Clock
- From: Jennifer Stevens <srtalina...>
- Subject: [HANASHIR:10910] Re: Adon Olam to Rock Around the Clock
- Date: Tue 12 Feb 2002 18.54 (GMT)
Sidenote of interest:
I could be wrong, but I seem to remember that Adon Olam originated in the
High Holiday liturgy. When it was added to the daily and Shabbat liturgy,
it had a position in the early part of the service. It was later moved to
the end - maybe as a way to bring us full circle or to end the service on a
more upbeat note.
B'shira,
Jennifer
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>Chas V'chalila we shouldn't have a "nusach police" - but I still think that
>we should, as "kol Yisrael arevim ze laze" (all of Israel are accountable
>for one another) - discuss appropriateness.
>
>One of the guiding principals in my musical career has been the
>relationship between text and music. There IS a relationship, whether one
>is conscious of it or not, and just like in human relationships - occupy
>the full spectrum from the sublime to the ridiculous. My particular view
>can be compared to that of a filmmaker, who is trying to tell a story, and
>everything in the production is geared towards telling that story in the
>best possible way, with a vision and a point of view. When all the parts
>work together and enhance each other, and you have a good story to tell -
>well then - you have a work of art that will last through time, and
>continue to deliver it's message.
>
>If you (whoever!) were making a documentary film about the creation of
>the Universe, even if it was "pure science" - with no mention of
>G-d...would you use a tune like "Rock around the clock" as background
>music? Probably not... But why not? "Artistic" decisions have no absolute
>right or wrongs, but - "hamevin yavin". (If you get it, you get it). You
>can argue forever whether something is in "good taste" or in "bad taste" -
>and sometimes there is no taste at all. Just bland nothingness. I know
>plenty of Synagogue music that falls into that category.
>
>Why should the process of matching a tune with existing lyrics be
>different? The words say something...they mean something. Shouldn't we
>concern ourselves with that meaning? My point is that the musicians among
>us need to be extra sensitive. Anyone can take an existing poem and match
>it up with some silly ditty. Is this what we want to give people as "tools"
>for worship?
>
>I don't know. I feel sorry for Adon Olam. It got stuck at the end of the
>service, and thus thrown to the dogs. Perhaps if it were right in the
>middle of the Amida ( so Rachel - would it then be OK to ponder the
>"unknowable, indefinable aspects of the Creator", or would it still be "too
>much" for the Jews...;-) - then it would "get more respect". Maybe it's a
>matter of "placement status", like rank, or real-estate. (location is
>everything). We wouldn't dream of saying the Sh'ma to the tune of Rock &
>Roll, right? Why not? (G-d is our "Rock", and we worship him "around the
>clock").
>
>All I'm saying here is that Adon Olam happens to be one of the most
>magnificent poems ever written about G-d, and that it should be treated
>with dignity and respect, and not be considered a
>"free-for-all-do-whatever-you-want-with-it" afterthought. And it's just my
>opinion.
>
>Please don't take me too seriously...only Adon Olam. Toda Raba!
>
>Shirona
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: WINSTON WEILHEIMER
> To: listhanashir
> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 6:16 PM
> Subject: [HANASHIR:10894] Re: Adon Olam to Rock Around the Clock
>
>
> This is not a criticism of Shirona's position, but Adon Olam, like licha
>dodi has many different melodies set to it. On the Nusach Internet Radio
>Network, I have dedicated shows to the different versions and filled the
>hour with much music to spare. Beat achon has an "under the boardwalk",
>safam "blue moon" and i sing it sometimes to "its a small world"
>
> Of course you have to be aware of the setting and the appropriateness of
>the version you are singing. I would not use it for the high holidays,
>preferring to use the more traditional versions. But who is to say (except
>by local minhag) what is ok and what is not....I use craig taubman's licha
>dodi in one congregation and it was well accepted,,,,when i used it in
>another, the stony looks could have frozen me to the bone.
>
> Let's not get too caught up in "what is proper." Shirona's Yigdal is
>beautiful and i love to play it on the air, but its not THE traditional
>melody for it. Let's not limit creativity by becoming the nusach police!
>
> There is a time and a place...
>
> btw...I kind of like the interpretation of God being our rock and we
>praise him around the clock!
>
> rabbi winston weilheimer
> host/owner
> THE NUSACH INTERNET RADIO NETWORK
> NUSACH....the ORIGINAL JEWISH SOUL MUSIC!
> http://www.angelfire.com/art2/nusach
>
>
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- [HANASHIR:10910] Re: Adon Olam to Rock Around the Clock,
Jennifer Stevens