[HANASHIR:9006] Re: stealing, copyright, lashon harah, etc

[Adrian Durlester <durleste...>]

After long discussions with our (orthodox) rabbi at the day school where I
teach today, I think Andy's advice is on the mark. I would simply add that
it is (or should be) standard operating procedure to secure rights before
proceeding with such a project.

Adrian

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org [mailto:owner-hanashir (at) 
> shamash(dot)org]On
> Behalf Of Andy Curry
> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 2:15 PM
> To: hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org
> Subject: [HANASHIR:9003] Re: stealing, copyright, lashon harah, etc
>
>
> Eric,  I admire your concern for doing the right thing!
>
> The thing which you would rather not do is the only thing to be done.  On
> this past Shabbos, we read
> "hocheach tochiach et amitecha, v'lo tisa alav chet" - rebuke, yes, rebuke
> your fellow, and not bear sin because of him" (Lev. 19:17).
>
> The rebuke must be gentle and private, and in this case, almost not a
> rebuke.  Just state that YOU don't feel right about enabling this process
> without knowing that the composers have given their go-ahead.  Stating it
> in this way lets him (or her) know of your ethical concern
> without accusing
> him of doing anything wrong - and it should prompt some reflection on his
> part.
>
> Even the respect which is due to our mothers and fathers has a
> limit, as we
> also read (Lev. 19:3).
>
> And, yes, associating to another person the rabbi's name with his/her
> request would be lashon hara.
>
> Good luck, and kol tuv.
>
> Andy
>
> At 12:44 PM 5/7/01 -0700, you wrote:
> >Can someone help me out of an ethical dilemma here?
> >
> >A rabbi passed on to a friend who then passed on to me the a note, from
> >which I quote a small part:
> >
> >>> I am putting together a Jewish ....  guitar /songbook as a fundraiser
> >>> for
> >>> [deleted]. I have all the lyrics on the computer and only need the
> >>> chords
> >>> to several of the songs. (I will be asking composers to permit
> >>> publication.)
> >>>
> >>> Please forward this list to any renewal  guitarists and ask
> them to let me
> >>>
> >>> know which songs they would be willing to add chords to and I
> will e-mail
> >>> them the lyrics. They would then e-mail me back the lyrics with tthe
> >>> chords
> >>> inserted. Thanks, be well, [name deleted]
> >
> >Then followed a list of songs he wants the guitar chords for.
> >
> >===========
> >
> >What do I do with this email?
> >
> >I'd rather not confront the rabbi, in fact, I'd rather not email him at
> >all.  I know of him well, and, well, would just not rather contact him.
> >
> >On the other hand, if I let anyone else know, would I be
> violating any laws
> >of shmiras halashon?  Would I be violating anyone's privacy?
> >
> >On the other other hand, it certainly seems to be a case of copyright
> >violation and stealing.  Unless, of course, he got permission.  But if he
> >got permission, he wouldn't need the chords, would he?
> >
> >Any thoughts?
> >
> >-- Eric
> >
> >
> >+-------------------------------------------------------+
> >| Eric Simon     | erics (at) radix(dot)net                      |
> >+-------------------------------------------------------+
> >| proud daddy to Joshua Ari  4/18/93 - 27 Nissan 5753   |
> >|        and Eliana Rebekah  3/12/95 - 11 Adar-2 5755   |
> >+-------------------------------------------------------+
> >
> >
> >
> >
> Andy Curry, Kansas City
> acurry (at) san-carlos(dot)rms(dot)slb(dot)com
>
>
>

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