[HANASHIR:6656] Re: ARE

[Robbi Sherwin <sherwin...>]

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>Does anyone know the website for ARE?
>Thanks,
>Meris Ruzow
>meris (at) nycap(dot)rr(dot)com
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Adrian Durlester <durleste (at) home(dot)com>
>To: hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org <hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org>
>Date: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 8:10 AM
>Subject: [HANASHIR:6605] Re: Ki Va Moed
>
>
>>Rachelle:
>>
>>
>>You are correct in that there are many levels of understanding of these
>>words. And I would theorize that this is deliberate. That is the power of
>>the Psalms - their ability to be therapeutic in any age.
>>
>>The plain meaning of Ki va moed is that the time has come for the
>>restoration of Zion - the place where Gd has chosen dwell among Israel. It
>>is the time of the answer to the prayer of the afflicted, for with Zion's
>>restoration will come the restoration of the afflicted as well. The
>question
>>arises-is this a prayer of faith, or hope? Some classify this psalm as
>>"penitential."
>>
>>If you examine the full text of Psalm 102, you'll see it is a very
>>time-oriented text. It aims to assist the one(s) for whom it was written,
>>the "afflicted," deal with the transient nature of human life through an
>>understanding and acceptance of Gd's time scale, which measures not in days
>>or weeks or even months, but years, generations, eternity. Examine the last
>>two lines:
>>
>>28:But You are the same, and your years shall have no end
>>29:The children of your servants shall continue, and their seed shall be
>>established before you.
>>
>>There is human time, and Gd's time. Only by finding a way to think
>long-term
>>can humanity deal with their own transient nature.
>>
>>So, perhaps the appointed (or set) time has come for:
>>
>>1. Gd to restore Zion and remove the pain of the afflicted.
>>2. Humanity to recognize that only Gd's time is permanent
>>3. Realize that only through embracing the long term can humanity come to
>>grips with the world.
>>4. Gd to resume Gd's throne in Zion/Jerusalem, and reassert Gd's rule over
>>all the earth, and raise up Gd's chosen people (and, in a more liberal
>>interpretation, all the afflicted of the world, Jew and gentile alike.)
>>
>>Or maybe it's a psalm of complaint, saying "hey Gd! we've suffered long
>>enough. it is TIME for you to hear the prayers of the afflicted and restore
>>those who praise your name.
>>
>>Interestingly enough, though labeled penitential, nowhere in the psalm does
>>the psalmist admit that their own transgressions, the transgressions of
>>Israel, are the cause of their misfortune. No, the psalmist simply blames
>>Gd:
>>
>>11. Because of your indignation and your wrath; for you have lifted me up,
>>and cast me down.
>>
>>Only through a twisted and subtle interpretation (keyed on the word
>>"z'am'cha" - "indignation") could one suggest that the psalmist was coming
>>close to admitting human complicity in their own misfortune by failing to
>>follow Gd's laws.
>>
>>So perhaps the "time has come" for action on Gd's part - to listen to the
>>prayers of the afflicted - for the psalm suggests early on:
>>
>>2. Hear my prayer, O Lord, and let my cry reach you.
>>3. Do not hide your face from me in the day when I am in trouble; incline
>>your ear to me; answer me speedily in the day when I call.
>>
>>as if Gd is being accused of not listening.
>>
>>I don't know that Reb Shlomo necessarily had any specific intent in
>>repeating the words Ki va moed in the song, other than that it fit the mood
>>and melody that Gd put in his head. It's one thing to try and interpret the
>>text of Tanakh, But I'm less comfortable intepreting the songwriting of Reb
>>Shlomo.
>>
>>I realize this only scratches the surface of interpretation of Psalm 102,
>>but it's a start and food for thought. I praise without end your desire to
>>understand the texts you are teaching and singing. You can give the Tanakh
>>and Gd no greater honor!
>>
>>Adrian
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: owner-hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org [mailto:owner-hanashir (at) 
>>> shamash(dot)org]On
>>> Behalf Of Rachelle and Howard Shubert
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 6:52 AM
>>> To: hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org
>>> Subject: [HANASHIR:6603] Re: Ki Va Moed
>>>
>>>
>>> I would like to have a fuller understanding of the text of Ki Va Moed
>>> before teaching it to our Rosh Chodesh group.   I have noted the
>reference
>>> of Psalms, chapt. 102, vs. 13-14:
>>>
>>> > 13. But you, O LORD, are enthroned forever;
>>> >     Your fame endures throughout the ages.
>>> > 14. You will surely arise and take pity on Zion,
>>> >     for it is time to be gracious to her;
>>> >     the appointed time has come (Ki va Moed)
>>>
>>> However, I can think of differing interpretations and possibly layers of
>>> meaning to the last line, which seems to be stressed by the
>>> repetition of it
>>> in the song.  Has the appointed time come for Gd, for the poet or
>>> for Zion,
>>> and what is to be done at this appointed time?  Is it a line we
>>> should apply
>>> to our personal life changes?  Scholars, what would you say?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Rachelle Shubert
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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