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[HANASHIR:6655] Re: Recordings?
- From: Meris Ruzow <meris...>
- Subject: [HANASHIR:6655] Re: Recordings?
- Date: Fri 04 Aug 2000 01.41 (GMT)
Does anyone know whether the following Ida Rose Feingold songs have been
recorded, and if so, who's recorded them?
1. "Oh the Torah."
2. "Tapuach on a Stick"
3. "L'Shana Tova to You & You."
Thanks so much.
Meris Ruzow
meris (at) nycap(dot)rr(dot)com
-----Original Message-----
From: Adrian Durlester <durleste (at) home(dot)com>
To: hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org <hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org>
Date: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 8:10 AM
Subject: [HANASHIR:6605] Re: Ki Va Moed
>Rachelle:
>
>
>You are correct in that there are many levels of understanding of these
>words. And I would theorize that this is deliberate. That is the power of
>the Psalms - their ability to be therapeutic in any age.
>
>The plain meaning of Ki va moed is that the time has come for the
>restoration of Zion - the place where Gd has chosen dwell among Israel. It
>is the time of the answer to the prayer of the afflicted, for with Zion's
>restoration will come the restoration of the afflicted as well. The
question
>arises-is this a prayer of faith, or hope? Some classify this psalm as
>"penitential."
>
>If you examine the full text of Psalm 102, you'll see it is a very
>time-oriented text. It aims to assist the one(s) for whom it was written,
>the "afflicted," deal with the transient nature of human life through an
>understanding and acceptance of Gd's time scale, which measures not in days
>or weeks or even months, but years, generations, eternity. Examine the last
>two lines:
>
>28:But You are the same, and your years shall have no end
>29:The children of your servants shall continue, and their seed shall be
>established before you.
>
>There is human time, and Gd's time. Only by finding a way to think
long-term
>can humanity deal with their own transient nature.
>
>So, perhaps the appointed (or set) time has come for:
>
>1. Gd to restore Zion and remove the pain of the afflicted.
>2. Humanity to recognize that only Gd's time is permanent
>3. Realize that only through embracing the long term can humanity come to
>grips with the world.
>4. Gd to resume Gd's throne in Zion/Jerusalem, and reassert Gd's rule over
>all the earth, and raise up Gd's chosen people (and, in a more liberal
>interpretation, all the afflicted of the world, Jew and gentile alike.)
>
>Or maybe it's a psalm of complaint, saying "hey Gd! we've suffered long
>enough. it is TIME for you to hear the prayers of the afflicted and restore
>those who praise your name.
>
>Interestingly enough, though labeled penitential, nowhere in the psalm does
>the psalmist admit that their own transgressions, the transgressions of
>Israel, are the cause of their misfortune. No, the psalmist simply blames
>Gd:
>
>11. Because of your indignation and your wrath; for you have lifted me up,
>and cast me down.
>
>Only through a twisted and subtle interpretation (keyed on the word
>"z'am'cha" - "indignation") could one suggest that the psalmist was coming
>close to admitting human complicity in their own misfortune by failing to
>follow Gd's laws.
>
>So perhaps the "time has come" for action on Gd's part - to listen to the
>prayers of the afflicted - for the psalm suggests early on:
>
>2. Hear my prayer, O Lord, and let my cry reach you.
>3. Do not hide your face from me in the day when I am in trouble; incline
>your ear to me; answer me speedily in the day when I call.
>
>as if Gd is being accused of not listening.
>
>I don't know that Reb Shlomo necessarily had any specific intent in
>repeating the words Ki va moed in the song, other than that it fit the mood
>and melody that Gd put in his head. It's one thing to try and interpret the
>text of Tanakh, But I'm less comfortable intepreting the songwriting of Reb
>Shlomo.
>
>I realize this only scratches the surface of interpretation of Psalm 102,
>but it's a start and food for thought. I praise without end your desire to
>understand the texts you are teaching and singing. You can give the Tanakh
>and Gd no greater honor!
>
>Adrian
>
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>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org [mailto:owner-hanashir (at)
>> shamash(dot)org]On
>> Behalf Of Rachelle and Howard Shubert
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 6:52 AM
>> To: hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org
>> Subject: [HANASHIR:6603] Re: Ki Va Moed
>>
>>
>> I would like to have a fuller understanding of the text of Ki Va Moed
>> before teaching it to our Rosh Chodesh group. I have noted the
reference
>> of Psalms, chapt. 102, vs. 13-14:
>>
>> > 13. But you, O LORD, are enthroned forever;
>> > Your fame endures throughout the ages.
>> > 14. You will surely arise and take pity on Zion,
>> > for it is time to be gracious to her;
>> > the appointed time has come (Ki va Moed)
>>
>> However, I can think of differing interpretations and possibly layers of
>> meaning to the last line, which seems to be stressed by the
>> repetition of it
>> in the song. Has the appointed time come for Gd, for the poet or
>> for Zion,
>> and what is to be done at this appointed time? Is it a line we
>> should apply
>> to our personal life changes? Scholars, what would you say?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Rachelle Shubert
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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