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[HANASHIR:5269] RE: HANASHIR digest 803



I hadn't thought of that!  Thanks for pointing out the relationship.  It
seems more likely related to French than Hebrew.  In fact, now that I think
of it, I believe French music of all kinds, especially the Notre Dame
repertoire was used in England during that period.  I was thinking of the
thirds and sixths as tonal relationships that could be represented by the
number three or gimel, which seems so close.  Is that how we got the name
Gemini?  What about Gematria?  We seem to twin up words that way...

BTW, Janet, I recently had the wonderful opportunity to solo at Beth El in
Flint.  They recently got a new building and it has a very warm
congregation to fill it.  Just thought I'd let you know.


At 10:30 AM 2/17/00 +0100, you wrote:
>
>>Also, has anyone ever heard of Gymel?  Apparently it was used in England's
>>liturgical music (likely not Jewish) during the medieval period.  I
>>couldn't help but think of the Hebrew letter when I read about it.
>>Especially since Gymel is a form of two part harmonization in intervalls of
>>a third and Gymel is also the number three.  Perhaps someone has studied
>>the significance of this parallel?  I think the word meant "twin voices" to
>>the author, but I couldn't help but notice the symbolic importance of the
>>number three in the form.  Did they borrow the term from us?
>
>
>I have not heard of this, but "gymel" sounds a bit like the French words
>"jumeau" or "jumelle", which mean "twin".
>
>Janet Pape
>
>


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