[HANASHIR:4813] Re: HANASHIR digest 763

[Rabbi Richard Schachet <lvrabbi...>]

Hi-

how did the home concert go?
-----Original Message-----
From: Ellen Allard <ellen (at) peterandellen(dot)com>
To: hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org <hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org>
Date: 06/mm/2000 11:42 AM
Subject: [HANASHIR:4803] Re: HANASHIR digest 763


>Yo Adrian! (Isn't that a line from the movie Rocky?) I couldn't have said
it
>better.
>
>Ellen Allard
>Worcester, MA
>
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>>From: "Adrian Durlester" <durleste (at) home(dot)com>
>>To: <hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org>
>>Subject: [HANASHIR:4801] Re: HANASHIR digest 763
>>Date: Thu, Jan 6, 2000, 2:03 PM
>>
>
>> Although I have the greatest respect for those who have received their
>> ordination from HUC, I cannot left unsaid my feelings on this issue.
>>
>> Somewhere along the way, liberal Judaism mistakenly adopted the model of
>> modern-day academia as its standard for training rabbis, cantors and
>> educators. While we all want well-educated leaders in these positions,
the
>> insistence upon only one accredited institution (four "branches" still
count
>> as one institution for Reform) and upon adherence to an American academic
>> model of training and certification that tends to make people jump
through
>> all the same hoops leads to exclusivity, and is a detriment to Judaism.
For
>> all the hundreds of students who have gone on to become rabbis, cantors,
etc
>> at HUC, there are hundreds more who did not get the opportunity.
>>
>> I am a student at Vanderbilt Divinity School. My Xtian friends have
>> opportunities that we Jews do not. The possibility of ordination is open
to
>> anyone who chooses to pursue it. They may not get it, but they are
certainly
>> free to try. They have (in many cases) a plethora of institutions at
which
>> they may study. Most of them are fully accredited programs.
>>
>> My orthodox friends have similar opportunities for study. In fact, one
can
>> even get s'micha through independent study and the approval of a trio of
>> rabbis. It still happens these days. Why must the liberal Jewish
movements
>> persist in resisting this time-tested model? Perhaps this is one reason
>> Xtianity flourishes while Judaism struggles along.
>>
>> I have heard, over and over, the argument that students should not attend
>> and get the s'micha from AJR or RRC because they won't find work at UAHC
>> congregations. This is a shanda, and the UAHC, the CCAR, ACC et al and
UAHC
>> member congregations should be ashamed. Would a Reform congregation turn
>> down a rabbi who was ordained at JTS or Yeshiva University, if that rabbi
>> happened to fit well with the congregation? Why should those who attend
AJR,
>> or RRC not be given equal consideration? Isn't the way that HUC, CCAR and
>> the ACC look down upon other institutions just like the way the Orthodox
in
>> Israel look down upon the liberal movements?!!!
>>
>> Are faculty at HUC, JTS, UJ, YU the only qualified scholars in the world
to
>> train potential rabbonim and cantors? When will the liberal movements
drop
>> this bizarre adoption of tightly controlled academic ordaining
institutions
>> in favor of a more flexible, open and truly Jewish system?
>>
>> Adrian
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Adrian A. Durlester  -  durleste (at) home(dot)com
>> http://members.home.net/durleste/
>> Student, Vanderbilt University Divinity School
>> http://divinity.lib.vanderbilt.edu/vds/vds-home.htm
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org [mailto:owner-hanashir (at) 
>> shamash(dot)org]On
>> Behalf Of Judith Rowland
>> Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2000 11:30 AM
>> To: hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org
>> Subject: [HANASHIR:4793] Re: HANASHIR digest 763
>>
>>
>> To all those thinking about cantorial programs, you should understand
>> that graduates of these programs are not recognized by the ACC as
>> cantors. The best place to study for the cantorate is at HUC. The only
>> acceptable alternative is the ACC/HUC Certification program. If you want
>> more information on that program you should contact the ACC.
>> Cantor Judith K. Rowland
>> Baltimore Hebrew Congregation
>>
>>
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