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Re: Help Israel's PR battle
- From: Ari Davidow <ari...>
- Subject: Re: Help Israel's PR battle
- Date: Wed 23 May 2001 01.35 (GMT)
Well, part of the problem is that not everybody feels
the same way on this issue as you and I, and almost
everybody is involved with something non-Jewish-music
related that is also important.
So, I appreciate the degree to which everyone can compartmentalize
a bit and leave this list for what it is.
ari
>No problem about the attachment - sorry, didn't know -
>I really think you should reconsider your stand on an
>issue as important as this. One can argue aspects of
>both the Palestinian and Israeli side. However, as a
>Jewish Music site, isn't it our obligation to speak
>out about a situation that threatens the very
>existence of the State of Israel. I think it's pretty
>obvious to all that since September, there has been a
>concerted effort on the part of many to wage a public
>relations battle through half truths and lies.
>
>Thomas Friedman seemed to sum it up pretty well:
>http://www.nytimes.com/2001/05/22/opinion/22FRIE.html
>
>Perhaps only musical issues should be discussed on the
>list but the situation seems very desperate.
>
>I'll honor your request and the wishes of the list.
>
>Glenn
>--- Trudi Goodman <goobietheg (at) hotmail(dot)com> wrote:
>
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><P> Dear Glen:</P>
><P> Please don't send
>attachments. It's hard for my server to handle
>them. Although, I am a Zionist, I prefer to make
>up my mind for myself and I will seek out what I
>feel I need to. I feel particularly oppressed by your
>assumption that this belongs on the
>Listbot---which it does not. In the future could
>you just refer people to whatever site you want
>them to get info. from , instead of sending
>attachments? This is what other people do.</P>
><P>
>Trudi<BR><BR></P></DIV>
><DIV></DIV>
><DIV></DIV>>From: glenn tamir <KLEZSKA (at) YAHOO(dot)COM>
><DIV></DIV>>Reply-To: jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org
><DIV></DIV>>To: World music from a Jewish slant
><JEWISH-MUSIC (at) SHAMASH(dot)ORG>
><DIV></DIV>>Subject: Help Israel's PR battle
><DIV></DIV>>Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 06:07:33 -0700
>(PDT)
><DIV></DIV>>
><DIV></DIV>>Attached is an editorial by Thomas
>Friedman. It very
><DIV></DIV>>clearly points out that the root of the
>problem in the
><DIV></DIV>>Middle-East lies at the feet of Yasir
>Arafat. Please
><DIV></DIV>>forward this to as many people as
>possible.
><DIV></DIV>>
><DIV></DIV>>Israel is currently losing the PR
>battle. Perhaps we
><DIV></DIV>>can help in our own small ways.
><DIV></DIV>>
><DIV></DIV>>Glenn Tamir
><DIV></DIV>>
><DIV></DIV>>
><DIV></DIV>>
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> <P><IMG align=left alt=T
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> Mitchell commission report about
>Israeli-Palestinian violence was released
> yesterday, and now there is a debate over what
>to do with its
> recommendations. I have a suggestion. It's kind
>of a two-for-one deal.
> Take all the Mitchell reports, make a big pile
>out of them, and set them
> ablaze into a gigantic bonfire. It would surely
>generate enough heat, and
> light, to make a small contribution to the Bush
>energy plan.</P>
> <P>Am I being unfair? Yes, just a bit. George
>Mitchell is a good man, and
> the central argument of his report is right, in
>the narrowest sense: If
> you want to stop the latest Israeli-Palestinian
>slide into the abyss,
> first there must be a cessation of all violence,
>and then
> confidence-building steps, including a
>settlements freeze and Palestinian
> security measures.</P>
> <P>My problem with the Mitchell report is that
>it fundamentally ignores
> how we got into this abyss and the only real way
>out. It is not because of
> Israeli settlements. The settlements are
>foolish, and their continued
> expansion is a shameful act of colonial coercion
>that will meet the fate
> of all other colonial enterprises in history.
>The inability of American
> Jewish leaders or U.S. governments to speak out
>against settlement
> expansion ó which should be stopped under any
>conditions for Israel's sake
> ó is a blot on all of them.</P>
> <P>But the settlements are not the core problem.
>The core problem right
> now is Yasir Arafat ó the Palestinian leader who
>cannot say "yes" and will
> not say "uncle."</P>
> <P>President Bill Clinton and Prime Minister
>Ehud Barak put on the table
> before Mr. Arafat a historic compromise proposal
>that would have given
> Palestinians control of 94 to 96 percent of the
>West Bank and Gaza ó with
> all the settlements removed, virtually all of
>Arab East Jerusalem, a
> return to Israel of a symbolic number of
>Palestinian refugees and either
> the right of return to the West Bank and Gaza or
>compensation for all the
> others.</P>
> <P>Not only would Mr. Arafat not take it, he
>would not even say: "Well,
> this was insufficient, but this is the most
>far-reaching and serious
> proposal Palestinians have ever seen. Now, I
>want to enter into a dialogue
> with the Israeli people and government to see if
>I can get them to 100
> percent."</P>
> <P>No, instead, Mr. Arafat launched this idiotic
>uprising. He did so
> because he is essentially a political coward and
>maneuverer, who
> apparently has not given up his long-term aim of
>eliminating Israel and
> who was afraid in the short run that if he took
>99 percent, he would be
> killed for the 1 percent he left on the table.
>Mr. Arafat has never been
> willing to tell his people he got them most of
>what they wanted and now is
> the time to end the suffering of as many
>Palestinians as possible and move
> on. </P>
> <P>This truth is what the Mitchell
>"investigation" should be telling the
> world and the Palestinians. There was an Israeli
>leader, and a slim
> Israeli majority, for a fair historic
>compromise. But there was no
> Palestinian equivalent, and unless there is a
>Palestinian partner, and a
> Palestinian leader, for a historic compromise
>roughly along the Clinton
> lines, no cease-fire is going to hold.</P>
> <P>The best Hebrew biography of Israeli Prime
>Minister Ariel Sharon is
> entitled "He Doesn't Stop at Red Lights." Mr.
>Arafat's biography should be
> entitled "He Doesn't Go at Green Lights."</P>
> <P>Now Mr. Sharon ó who was elected in the
>Israeli backlash against the
> failure of Camp David ó is trying to pummel Mr.
>Arafat into submission.
> That won't work either. Because Mr. Arafat is as
>afraid to say "uncle" to
> Sharon as much as he was afraid to say "yes" to
>Clinton. He fears he would
> be killed for saying uncle as much as he would
>be killed for saying yes to
> 99 percent. The Palestinians will never be
>bombed into submission. One
> hundred years of Palestinian history tells you
>that.</P>
> <P>The real problem is that the Palestinians are
>leaderless today, and
> that is what the U.S., the U.N. and the Arab
>world have to face up to.
> Deep down, they all know it and they admit it to
>each other in private.
> There is no Palestinian leader right now willing
>or able to say yes to a
> fair historic compromise, and we simply fool
>ourselves with commissions
> that don't acknowledge that. Unless the Arabs
>can stiffen Mr. Arafat by
> supporting him in any grand compromise, or by
>creating a context in which
> an alternative leadership can emerge, this
>bonfire will rage on and it
> will consume many, many
>others. </P></NYT_TEXT><BR>
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