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Re: What Is Jewish Music? (revisited!)
- From: Robert Cohen <rlcm17...>
- Subject: Re: What Is Jewish Music? (revisited!)
- Date: Tue 14 Dec 1999 22.27 (GMT)
"I know it when I hear it" is a good guide to the question (alluded to by
Seth Austen recently) "What do I like? What moves me/speaks to my heart (or
head or whatever)?" But it's a *terrible* guide to "What Is Jewish Music?"
since, as I point out to classes and lecture audiences all the time, ancient
or "exotic" Jewish music--ancient Sephardic that "sounds like" Gregorian
chant; (ancient) Yemenite music, Moroccan or Tunisian Jewish music, etc.,
etc., don't "sound like" Jewish music to our (that is, most of my
audiences') Western/American, 20th-century, Ashkenazic Jewish ears. And
there's the "newness" factor. Sulzer's 19th-century art-music settings of
liturgy didn't "sound Jewish" to Eastern European Jews of his day--it
sounded Christian, or "goyish." Now it _defines_ a certain style of
cathedral and not-so-cathedral (and even not cathedral at all) synagogue
music. It _became_ "Jewish" by constant use over a period of time, until it
(only eventually) "sounded Jewish" to everyone. It really _isn't_ a Potter
Stewart thing. -- Robert Cohen
>From: Susan Lerner <meydele (at) ix(dot)netcom(dot)com>
>Subject: Re: promiscuous fusionizers
>Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 18:48:17 -0800
>As to the discussion of the term klezmer and the way it has been
>"elasticized, " I'm not too concerned. We may not be able to agree on a
>definition, but I think there is a critical mass of people who can
>differentiate between "sounds real klezmer", "sorta klezmer" to "not
>really klezmer", if my 'teen classes struggling to answer the question What
>Is Jewish Music? are any indication. Yep, I'm actually (and here I blush)
>falling back on "I don't know what it is but I know it when I hear
>it." ---------------------- jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org
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- Re: What Is Jewish Music? (revisited!),
Robert Cohen