Re: Jewish music performance series/tyake 2

[Trudi Goodman <goobietheg...>]

Why shouldn't see me offended...explanations only go so far in these 
circumstances.
Trudi the G

>From: "Eliezer Kaplan" <zelwel (at) earthlink(dot)net>
>Reply-To: jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org
>To: World music from a Jewish slant <jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org>
>Subject: Re: Jewish music performance series
>Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 22:44:59 -0500
>
>You shouldn't be offended- at some point some Rabbis decided that women's
>voices distracted them or their students from their studies- perhaps turned
>them on (kol ba-isha ervah). So women's voices were banned from the ears of
>men. Silly? In the context of modern times, probably. Offensive? Not if you
>think about it. To compound the problem, once a custom is established in 
>the
>Orthodox Ashkenazic community it usually takes on the intensity of a law.
>I'm guessing (operational phrase: guessing) that a shul which would not 
>have
>a problem with women instrumentalists performing would also not have a
>problem with a mixed choir, provided there were no passages which were sung
>only by women.
>And personally, none of this would keep me from going to see (and hear)
>either Lori Lippitz or Kim Gordon.
>                                            EK
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <Halsherm3 (at) aol(dot)com>
>To: World music from a Jewish slant <jewish-music (at) shamash(dot)org>
>Sent: Thursday, September 23, 1999 9:43 PM
>Subject: Re: Jewish music performance series
>
>
> > In a message dated 9/23/99 2:53:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
>elkahn (at) JTSA(dot)EDU
> > writes:
> >
> > << The one major drawback--and I believe it's a big one--is that I 
>cannot
>at
> >  this time invite solo women singers. Women instrumentalists are okay, 
>but
> >  in the Orthodox tradition, women vocalists are not. I'm not sure about
> >  mixed choirs. These are not my personal beliefs, so I apologize to all
>the
> >  female singers for this lack of opportunity. There's simply nothing I 
>can
> >  do about it. >>
> >
> >
> > I found this statement to be so completely offensive. Substitute the 
>word
> > jewish for the word female and read it again. How do you feel?
> >
> > The reaction I had to this was purely from my gut. I realize that it
>wasn't
> > meant to
> > be offensive but it was all the same (IMHO).
> >
> > How do others feel?  Lynn
> >
> >
> >
>
>

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