[HANASHIR:3624] Re: Bar'chu info

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At my (Reconstructionist) shul, the "Baruch Shem Kavod" is said rather
quietly on a normal Shabbat.  I don't know about other Reconstructionist
shuls. Emily

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> From: Judy Git <hillel (at) prodigy(dot)net>
> To: hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org
> Subject: [HANASHIR:3623] Re: Bar'chu info
> Date: Wednesday, August 04, 1999 2:19 AM
> 
> To be precise, "El melech ne'eman" is said when you don't have a minyan;
privately would be without a minyan, but nine people would also say that -
or - as I did for years - one teacher and a bunch of children.
> 
> As for the "Baruch shem k'vod," orthodox and conservative tradition is,
as Raquel said, to say it out loud only on Yom Kippur.  Originally, this
prayer was said in the Holy Temple on Yom Kippur by the High Priest
> who would also use G-d's proper name during the service.  My
semi-educated guess is that this is the reason that the "Baruch shem k'vod"
was said out loud only on that day - that it was connected to the
> vocalization of the Holy Name. (The literal translation of this phrase
is: "Blessed is the name of his revered kingdom - or kinship - for ever and
ever." Common translations generally translate "Machuto" as his
> kingdom, but I suspect it's referring to G-d, Himself - his kingSHIP
rather than kingDOM. ) Reform tradition, however, says it out loud
throughout the year.
> 
> I have gone into this amount of detail so that we might hopefully avoid
any faction feeling that the responses have not addressed them adequately. 
(Does anyone know what the Reconstructionists do with this line??)
> 
> Judy
> 
> Hazzan David Sirull wrote:
> 
> > The el melech ne'eman that you refer to is said only when saying the
Shema privately. It is also said that the word amen is an abbreviation for
those three words.
> >
> > At 10:39 PM 8/3/99 EDT, you wrote:
> > >In a message dated 8/3/99 2:16:26 PM Central Daylight Time,
LSalvay (at) aol(dot)com
> > >writes:
> > >
> > ><< My understanding is that "baruch Shem k'vod..." is said under one's
breath
> > > between the Shema and V'ahavta because it is not a quote from Torah,
but was
> > > added parenthetically. Therefore, it is not uttered aloud, so as not
to be
> > > misconstrued as part of the "quote." >>
> > >
> > >I concur with the above explanation. Has anyone ever heard of the
practice
> > >of saying "el melech ne'eman" BEFORE the Shema? I think these little
"asides"
> > >or "whispers" within prayers, words said only at certain times of
year,
> > >different body movements (bowing, taking little backward steps, etc.)
are all
> > >a wonderful part of the total choreography of Jewish prayer...they
each add
> > >so much.
> > >
> >
> > >
> > >
> 
> 
> 

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