[HANASHIR:2806] Re: guitar travail and homosexuality

[Judy Git <hillel...>]

I am not a professional musician; I'm a teacher who uses music in her teaching.
I in no way consider myself "entitled."  I simply believe that delicate things -
musical instruments being one of them, ought to be accomodated in some 
reasonable
manner by the airlines.  As Judy (the other one) said, instruments have
sentimental value to anyone who plays them, professional or not, - are an
extension of our being, are PERSONAL.  Can you imagine an airline insisting that
some delicate scientific instrument be tossed into the baggage along with all 
the
suitcases?  What about an antique vase that someone bought - or just great aunt
Mollie's crystal punch bowl that has little monetary value, but a great deal of
sentimental value.  The airlines are unreasonable, in my opinion, if they do not
make allowances for all of these types of things, musical instruments included.
If they make people sign a waiver, this means that they KNOW that a guitar 
stands
a much higher than normal chance of being broken or ruined.  Is it equitable for
their response to this to be, "Too bad - put it in anyway, but - oh yes - sign a
waiver so if we break it, you won't hold us responsible?"  Sorry, but I don't
think that objecting to this kind of uncaring and inconsiderate treatment in any
way implies that a person is in any way "self important" or "entitled."

Judy (Git)

Rglauber (at) aol(dot)com wrote:

> I was hoping that this topic would fade away, as I find myself getting a bit
> frustrated by the pervasive attitude of the list members on this issue.
> Granted, this is a pet peeve of mine, but what the hell, let me share it with
> the rest of you....
>
> I travel quite a bit with my guitar.  I like to carry it on if possible.  If
> not, I check it in, loosen the strings and hope for the best.  I've had
> absolutely no problem after many many such check ins.  The thing that's
> bugging me is what I perceive to be a strain of self-importance, entitlement
> because we are so "special" and deserving of some kind of unique treatment.
>
> I prefer to look at it as an airline trying to do an extremely difficult job
> of getting tons of baggage and people from place to place every day.  My
> sense tells me that when a baggage handler sees a guitar with a "fragile"
> sticker on it, he/she handles it with care.  I don't think they just throw
> them around.  Hey, people love their golf clubs and their fishing rods and
> their surfboards and whatever else.  As a passenger, I don't want to see them
> carried on, and I don't want to wait behind someone who is giving the agent a
> hard time because they're not allowed to carry it on.
>
> I'd probably have a different attitude if I ever got one smashed up, but
> aside from Steve's experience, I haven't heard of that occurring.  Plus, if
> your guitar is that important and precious to you, then spring for an anvil
> case and stop worrying about it.  (Anvil cases are the indestructible ones
> that the steadily touring musicians usually use)
>
> Finally, I must comment on Adrian's most recent pre-shabbat musing, in which
> he talked about some of the more difficult passages in torah, and offered
> some fairly controversial commentary.  Sorry I can't quote it verbatim, but I
> inadvertantly deleted it.  But in a nutshell, it had to do with some of the
> biblical strictures around homosexuality and other transgressions (stoning to
> death, that sort of thing)  Adrian's point was that as much as it's tempting
> to reject the more difficult biblical passages, we have to "respect" our
> torah and look more deeply at these questions.
>
> What I can't accept is when he talks about homosexuality, and includes it
> with infidelity and I believe some type of criminal bahavior.  (sorry for the
> lack of a direct quote)  Homosexuality and infidelity do not equate.  Period.
>  It's an insult to gay people, and I don't believe that it has any place on
> this list.  If that is "disrespecting" torah, then let me disrespect it
> fully.  I'd rather do that than disrespect a person.
>
> Rich G
>



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