Re: HANASHIR digest 300

[Susan Schanerman <sschanerman.dvh...>]

Brian et al,

     Actually, I wasn't referring to melodies by Friedman, Klepper, etc. when I 
said "Reform nusach".  I was just showing my
ignorance and assuming that the high holiday melodies that I grew up with are 
called "nusach" and are unique to Reform
congregations.  Thanks to everyone who has offered suggestions and 
clarification.

Susan Schanerman

Jewish Songleading/Music wrote:

>                             HANASHIR Digest 300
>
> Topics covered in this issue include:
>
>   1) Re: HANASHIR digest 298
>         by <Chazzzan (at) aol(dot)com>
>   2) Re: Have accordion, will travel
>         by Rich Glauber <rglauber (at) interlog(dot)com>
>   3) Re: Have accordion, will travel
>         by Rachelle Mingail Shubert <shubert (at) total(dot)net>
>   4) More on Reform 'Nusach'
>         by Rachel Gurevitz <rgurevit (at) geography(dot)ucl(dot)ac(dot)uk>
>   5) Re: More on Reform 'Nusach'
>         by <ALICEWINE (at) aol(dot)com>
>
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> Subject: Re: HANASHIR digest 298
> Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 12:15:50 EDT
> From: <Chazzzan (at) aol(dot)com>
> To: hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org
>
> Ellen (and everyone), I believe the term she was looking for was "New American
> Nusach".  That term has been used here to describe music written by Julie,
> Debbie, Jeff, Craig, et al. that either uses traditional prayers from the
> siddur, and sets them to modern melodies, OR entirely new prayers in English,
> written by the same people.
>
> We have had many discussions about whether this can really be called a
> "nusach."
> So let's just call it a "style".
>
> Regards,
>
> Brian
>
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> Subject: Re: Have accordion, will travel
> Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 14:15:40 +0100
> From: Rich Glauber <rglauber (at) interlog(dot)com>
> To: hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org
>
> Dear friends, I keep self-censoring this letter out of some kind of fear of
> appearing foolish, but with your forbearance, I'm going to post it and let
> the chips do what they will.
>
> I'm leaving Toronto after a four year stint in the Jewish community, and
> will be on the road for most of September and October.  I have a nice gig
> leading high holiday services for grades 4-8 at Kol Ami in White Plains,
> NY, and after that, I am quite flexible.
>
> I had a thought:  wouldn't it be great to visit some of the communities in
> the New York area, share some music, continue the process of community
> building which to my mind, is one of the wonderful aspects of this
> listserv.  I emailed my friend David Jaffe who I met at Hava Nashira, and
> he invited me down to Maryland for a community gathering on the Saturday
> night of Sukkot.
>
> I'm curious if there's anyone out there who would be interested in having
> me and my music be a part of one of your community's gatherings during
> sukkot or simchat torah (or possibly during the days of awe)  Money is not
> my motivation at this time; it's more important for me to spread out a bit
> and share music with the wider Jewish community.
>
> For the record, I've done hundreds of school and synagogue shows, I play
> guitar, accordion, and lots of other instruments, I'm great with kids, and
> I can make music with just about anyone.
>
> So please, consider this my one permissable self-promotion exercise, and if
> you are interested in sharing your community with me, please email me
> privately.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rich
>
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> Subject: Re: Have accordion, will travel
> Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 20:58:50
> From: Rachelle Mingail Shubert <shubert (at) total(dot)net>
> To: hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org
>
> I haven't had the pleasure of meeting you Rich, but based on listening to
> one of your  CD's for children (many times, since my kids play it over and
> over) it is evident that you have a great deal of positive energy and
> creativity coming through in your music.  I wish you all the best in your
> new adventures.
>
> Rachelle
>
> Rachelle Mingail Shubert
>
> CONCERTS
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>          CONSULTING
>
> shubert (at) total(dot)net
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> Subject: More on Reform 'Nusach'
> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 11:21:25 +0000
> From: Rachel Gurevitz <rgurevit (at) geography(dot)ucl(dot)ac(dot)uk>
> To: hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org
>
> Hi all,
>
> >On the subject of 'Reform Nusach'.  I don't know if this applies in the US,
> >but here in the UK, you'll rarely find actual 'nusach' being used; one of
> >the downers of hardly having any trained cantors here in the progressive
> >movements.  But our Reform and Liberal movements use Lewandowski melodies
> (ie. tunes, not what most people call 'nusach') to prayers incessantly
> (which is one of the reasons why Hava Nashira is
> >such a breath of fresh air each year).  Actually, HN helped me get over
> >some of my aversion to his music with the spectacular Tsadik Katamar we
> >sang this year with Debbie (which I think is one of his) - I've never heard
> >it sound like that with a UK choir who sings it week in, week out.
> >
> >Anyway, this is what we'd probably think of as 'traditional' over here and
> >there is a complete book of Lewandowski's music for choir available.  It is
> >not complicated in the musical sense - very predictable C19th classical
> >style - but most congregations can't just do it unless led by a formal
> >choir (which is one of the reasons I dislike it so much - the choir ends up
> >'performing' and the congregants become an audience). And it's simplicity
> >means that it sounds a bit thin if you just sing the soprano 'tune' - the
> >harmonies make it work better for me.
> >
> >And whilst I'm mailing - hi Ellen!!  Just spoke to a jet-lagged Zoe on
> >Sunday - sounds like Kutz was amazing again and I'm looking forward to
> >'downloading' all the new material from her!
> >
> >Love to all,
> >
> >Rachel
> >
> >
>
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> Subject: Re: More on Reform 'Nusach'
> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 08:14:46 EDT
> From: <ALICEWINE (at) aol(dot)com>
> To: hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org
>
> Other composers which we used to use a great deal at our Reform temple for the
> Yom Tovim are Stark and Saminsky.  Their music was what I grew up on, though
> now much has been replaced by more contemporary (but not "new American")
> melodies.
> Alice