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- From: Joel Siegel <jdsiegel...>
- Subject: More thoughts on rsi
- Date: Fri 27 Jun 1997 01.44 (GMT)
Just a couple more thoughts on RSI and guitars before I go back to bar exam
study....
Last summer was the worst for me; I tried to do as little typing and guitar
playing as I could get away with. I went to an occupational therapist and
got an evaluation of my technique and some stretches. For those of us who
songlead, it's probably worth passing along that my OT preferred me sitting
down to standing up, because having a guitar strap around the shoulders
tends to compress neck, shoulders and back, and take the body out of
alignment. Of course, proper posture while sitting is essential.
I bought a Nada Chair also for when I needed to be sitting on the ground.
It's a great device; it's basically a pad which goes on the lumber portion
of your back, attached to straps which come around the front and hook onto
your shins. You put the thing on your back, sit down cross-legged, hook
the straps on, and you have an instant "chair", or more correctly, instant,
walk-around-with-you lumbar support. The device also works fine when
sitting in a regular chair for when you want a little more lumbar support
(or your only choices are lousy chairs).
I'm reprinting one article from the musician-rsi web page I mentioned in my
last post. I hope this is interesting to y'all; if it's superfluous,
I know some of this stuff is long and I do apologize for the bandwidth. I
won't post more unless specifically requested (or something looks essential
to share). The stuff is all on the Web pages I posted in my last message
(or linked to them.)
Apropos our copyright discussion of last week, note the copyright notice
and permission at the top of the article.
Happy reading; I hope it's useful.
Joel
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Subject: seat.htm
14-Jun-96
This page contains an article on sitting position with the guitar and
an alternative to current options. I wrote this article for a guitar
pedagogy class. You may print this article and share it it at will as
long as it is presented in its ENTIRETY!! It's copyrighted so don't
get any ideas or sell it to some desperate soul. I plan to update this
article when I feel that it needs improvements, etc. Check back every
few months or so.
Sitting & Proper Positioning with the Guitar
By Nitin Arora
Among the many techniques a classical guitarist must learn and
eventually master, the first is that of sitting with the guitar. Yet,
interestingly enough, sitting seems to be the area of technique to
which the least amount of thought is given apart from the initial
study. Sadly, most guitarists would hardly consider sitting position
to be a technique. Technique, for many guitarists, embodies only
obvious functions such as the playing of scales and arpeggios.
Technique is much more than this. A technique could be defined as the
physical and mental means to a musical end. Sitting would certainly
fall under this definition. Furthermore, all other techniques that the
guitarist employs are all in some way linked to sitting position.
Excellent sitting position will make the jobs of the hands and fingers
easier as well as conserving one's energy. No sane guitarist would
deny his desire for these things. Yet, despite the massive amount of
advantages that excellent sitting position affords, it is often
physical discomfort or pain which leads one to truly reevaluate their
technique with regards to sitting.
As with all other techniques, when the guitarist seeks change he will
usually consult with a teacher, either directly or indirectly, perhaps
through a method book. Yet this weary guitarist is not always aware
that danger, in the form of misinformation, possibly awaits him.
Historically, and to this day, most guitar methods and teachers have
discussed in detail the "proper" placement of guitar to the body using
a certain type of guitar support. Methods with better intentions will
go further to discuss the actual placement of the body itself. Yet,
this information, while noble in cause, is incomplete and often
dangerous (and usually WRONG). No complete discussion of sitting with
the guitar can take place until one first learns how to sit correctly
without the guitar. Moreover, correct and easy sitting depends heavily
upon the chair one wishes to practise on. This is not something
usually discussed in even the most complete guitar methods.
Selecting a chair is not to be taken lightly. Proper chair selection
can make the difference between pleasure and pain as well as vitality
and fatigue. A well designed chair can lessen the work the body must
do in order to sit correctly while practising. Conversely, a poorly
designed chair will cause one to expend valuable energy unnecessarily.
Energy is be better used to play the guitar rather than sit with it.
Unfortunately for the guitarist, most chairs are not designed for one
to sit with the spine aligned for long periods of time. However, there
exists a type of chair which is well suited to the guitarist. This is
commonly known as the forward sloping chair. This type of chair
combats the problems that the human body will face when seated in
horizontal or backward sloping chairs and allows one to sit in a truly
aligned position.
A relaxed sitting position in a horizontal chair, such as a piano
bench, or a backward sloping chair will cause the body's natural line
of gravity to be shifted behind the sit bones. This will increase the
amount of work that needs to be done to sit with the spine aligned
since the guitarist will need to withstand gravity. This excess work
causes continual contraction of the abdominal, back, and hip flexor
muscles. This contraction often results in the reduction of blood flow
and furthermore creates metabolites, which are waste products of
muscle work. The build up of these metabolites, such as lactic acid,
can cause spasms and pain (Norris 39). Of course, many method books
tell us to do otherwise and "lift our head toward the sky" in order to
align the spine. This eliminates the danger of having a slumped spine,
but is itself dangerous due to the massive amount of physical activity
that is required to sit like this for a long time. If one chooses to
sit like this then they will have to increase their endurance and
stamina, but endurance is no excuse for faulty mechanics. If several
methods promote effortless technique with regards to the hands then
why do these same guitarists advocate a sitting position which
requires great muscular effort? Using a properly forward sloping chair
will eliminate the "slumped" position and eliminate the need to use
force in order to achieve an aligned position.
Giving in to gravity when the body's center of gravity is too far back
will cause a flattening of the lumbar spine (Norris 39). While this is
acceptable for many activities, due to the fact that is will require
less energy than sitting straight in a poorly designed chair, it is
not advantageous for playing the guitar. Playing the guitar for
several hours a day in this position puts a dangerous strain on the
back and will also limit the capacity to breathe. In the words of
Richard Norris, M.D., director of the National Arts Medicine Center,
"flattening of the lumbar curve results in flattening of the
diaphragm, limiting its excursion and thereby decreasing the air flow"
(39). A properly forward sloping chair will realign the body's line of
gravity directly over the sit bones and will not only discourage
flattening of the lumbar spine but will allow for fuller breathing as
well as decreasing the amount of work that the body must do in order
to sit straight, thereby reducing the risk of pain and fatigue.
Another aspect of sitting which the guitarist should understand is
that there is a definite limit to far the femur, or thighbone, can
rotate upwards from within the hip socket. The femur can only rotate
upwards (toward your chin) sixty degrees from within the hip socket
(Figure 1). Bringing the thighbones up any further is caused by a
backward rotation of the pelvis. In fact, it is this backward rotation
of the pelvis which causes the previously mentioned flattening of the
lumbar spine and places the body's center of gravity behind the sit
bones. For example, sitting with the hips at a ninety degree angle
(Figure 2) will causes a thirty degree backward rotation of the pelvis
which in turn causes a thirty degree flattening of the lumbar curve
(Norris 39). Once again, the easiest way to eliminate this is through
the use of a forward sloping chair. A chair sloping forward thirty
degrees will eliminate the need for the pelvis to rotate backwards and
will maintain the lumbar curve through natural means rather than by
force. Unfortunately, a forward slope of thirty degrees can simply be
too much and may cause the guitarist to feel thrust forward. Norris
recommends a forward slope of fifteen to twenty degrees.
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Despite the obvious advantages of a forward sloping chair they are
very difficult to come by. When experimenting with the forward sloping
chair one may simply place pieces of wood under the back legs of their
chair. If the guitarist is sensitive enough to feel the advantages of
the forward sloping chair he may wish to purchase a wedge cushion, a
type of cushion which can turn a normal chair into a forward sloping
chair. The ErgoCush is such a cushion and is available from AliMed
Inc.® at 1-800-225- 2610. They cost around forty dollars.
Other options to consider in choosing a chair are height and the
backrest. Choosing the height of the chair will require much
experimentation on the part of the guitarist due to physical
differences among players. One should not choose a chair so low that
the hips form an angle greater than ninety degrees (as mentioned
earlier), which in itself is risky enough. On the other hand, the
chair must not so high that is becomes difficult to sit with the
guitar. The feet should , of course, both be securely on the floor,
something not afforded by a chair of excess height.
The decision whether or not to use a backrest while practising is a
complex one. Many backrest are in fact designed too poorly to be used
when sitting aligned while practising. In many chairs the backrest
tilts backwards and will force the guitarist to lean the spine
backwards. This will usually result in the thoracic region of the
spine to be supported, leaving the lumbar region unsupported. Often,
the only way to give support to the lower part of the back is to
assume a kyphotic, or slumped, seating position (Zacharov 108) . This,
of course, will reduce the energy required to sit but comes with a
price. The guitarists ability to breathe will be limited and stresses
will be put upon the lower back. Pillow-like lumbar supports are
available in many stores. These can be strapped onto the lower part of
the chair's backrest and will allow one to sit aligned while bringing
lower back support to the body rather than adjust the body to the
backrest (just make sure that you do not have to lean back to feel the
lumbar support ). Guitarists may also wish to experiment with back
supports which actually strap on to the body. These are primarily
designed for people who do a lot of lifting, yet they are excellent
for encouraging aligned sitting. If using a properly forward sloping
chair, you probably won't even need a backrest.
There are, of course, other parts of the body which must be addressed
in a discussion of sitting apart from the back, lower torso, and
thighs. These are the legs and shoulders as well as the head and neck.
Over the years, guitarists seem to have become more and more aware of
the importance of an aligned posture. Yet, alignment should not be the
only concept which influences sitting position. Another concept, which
is probably neglected by guitarists more than all others, is that of
symmetry. A symmetrical seating position is one in which the left leg
performs the same task as the right leg, etc. Players who use the
footstool and those who sit cross-legged are the clearest examples of
asymmetrical sitting posture. Players who employ the footstool have
one leg higher than the other and often, if right handed, place the
right leg more to the right in order to support the guitar with the
inner right thigh. Many people who use the suction cup based support
are also guilty of this, however, they are less asymmetrical than
players who use the footstool because both of their feet will be
placed on the floor. Sitting with the legs crossed, which is common
among lutenists and many current flamenco players, is asymmetrical in
that one leg is rested upon the other and weight and pressure
distribution will be uneven with regards to the buttocks and feet
(Zacharov 73). Asymmetry and uneven pressure distribution can lead to
hurried muscle fatigue and uneven blood flow (Zacharov 73).
Furthermore, raising one leg high such as with a footstool or with
cross- legged sitting will, of course, cause backward rotation of the
pelvis and a flattening of the lumbar curve. In these instances, the
reinstatement of the natural lumbar curve can only occur through great
muscular effort. And remember: endurance is no excuse for faulty
mechanics!
Proper shoulder positioning is often problematic for guitarists. While
the shoulder is the most mobile joint in the body, it is also the
least stable (Norris 45). Shoulder problems in classical guitarists
are common, especially in the shoulder which corresponds to the hand
which strokes the strings. In the right handed guitarists this would
be the right shoulder. Often guitarists thrust " the right shoulder
forward, so as to be able to lay the forearm flat against the guitar
and avoid impinging the underside of the right forearm against the
sharp edge of the guitar. This position strains the shoulder muscles
and tendons" (Norris 46). Guitarists should realize that if the
headstock of the guitar is pointing itself too far behind the
guitarist then the opposite end of the guitar will be too far forward.
If the headstock points just slightly forward or is in a neutral
position then the lower bout of the guitar will come closer to the
body and this will reduce the need to bring the shoulder forward.
Also, if the guitar is rotated so that the soundhole is facing the
floor, shoulder discomfort can occur. Players worried about impinging
the underside of the forearm against the guitar should pad their
forearm with some type of cloth, such as old socks.
Another danger that the guitarist faces is that of neck pain. Usually,
this type of pain can easily be prevented. Often guitarists place
their music stand too low or, in rarer circumstances, too high.
Placing the music stand too low or high will cause a forward or
backward tilt of the head, respectively. These will increase the
amount of weight that the neck must support and can not only lead to
neck pain but to headaches and lower back pain as well (Zackarov 180).
Also, guitarists have a tendency to tilt the head forward in order to
watch their hands while they play. Guitarists who wish to watch their
hands can place a large mirror in front of themselves at eye level.
This will allow one to see their hands while preventing a forward or
backward tilt of the head.
To achieve an aligned and symmetrical sitting position, after the
proper chair has been chosen, one should sit in the chair with both
feet firmly on the floor. The knees and feet should be approximately
aligned with the shoulders. The feet should be slightly pointed
outwards. The spine should not be forced to lean forwards or
backwards. Experiment with the possibilities of using the chair's
backrest, if it has one. Of course, you eventually might not even need
one. The natural lumbar curve should be maintained. Do not let the
spine curve backwards (kyphosis) in a slumped position or curve too
far inwards (lordosis) which will cause the upper chest to stick out.
The shoulders should not be raised. The head should not tilt forwards
or backwards or turn to favor either the right or left. These basic
guidelines should roughly be followed at all times. Slight movements
of the body are natural and should not be discouraged.
Once a proper sitting position has been achieved the guitar can then
be added to the body. Since the thighs will be rather close together,
the lower bout of the guitar should be placed on the right thigh (for
right handed players). This will for some cause the right shoulder to
come up too high. A remedy for this would be to lower the right thigh,
either through a higher chair or by slightly decreasing the angle of
the right thigh by bringing the right foot under the right thigh and
closer to the player's body. As mentioned before, the lower bout
should not be too far forward from the body as to bring the shoulder
(of the hand which strokes the strings) forward. For some, a smaller
guitar may be the best solution (it is for me!). The angle of the neck
of the guitar should not be so low that the left hand is limited in
accessing the fretboard. This can also cause for dipping of the left
shoulder. Yet, it should not be so high as to fatigue the left hand.
The guitar's soundhole should also be pointed slightly upwards or
straight ahead. This will help the shoulder (of the hand which strokes
the strings) maintain its natural position. The guitar should also not
be too far to the right or left as to "pull" the player in either
direction. Once the guitarist has found the proper position, he can
use several devices such as the suction cup based support or a cushion
to secure the guitar. Other devices which stabilize the guitar to a
greater degree than these are available, though hard to come by.
I found the suction cup based device to be very unstable during
playing. This may be a concept flaw, although the shoddy nature of its
construction must have something to do with it. I found the cushions
to be even worse. Therefore, two friends ( Dave Stancik and James
Buckland ), and I formed a concept which calls for a clamp which
latches onto the headstock of the guitar. James Buckland has already
manufactured the prototype for me. This clamp is attached to a camera
tripod with a camera support. I use a Bogen 3055 ball head because it
has a large base. I sit with the lower bout of the guitar on my right
thigh (as described earlier) and attach the headstock to this
clamp/tripod/camera support. This allows for me to make extremely
detailed adjustments while having an EXTREMELY stable guitar. I can
adjust the angle of the neck as well as the rotation of the guitar
itself. This is really a simple concept and you could easily get a
clamp made for yourself. Then all you would need to do is go to your
local camera store and buy a tripod and ball head. Hopefully, all
players will find a proper solution for sitting at some point in their
development but I recommend this for anyone who is having severe
problems with regards to sitting, whether it be physical pain or
refusal to accept the shortcomings of the other choices. It's
basically the way Fernando Sor sat except that I use a tripod at the
headstock as opposed to a table at the bout to support the guitar...so
its totally non obtrusive...and I can still tune! If a cushion or
suction cup based support works for you then thats' great but keep in
mind, especially if you are a teacher, that they just don't work for
everyone and they shouldn't be expected to. If you need help I hope
this clamp/tripod/camera support will work for you but if it doesn't
you may come up with a different idea! Good Luck!!!
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Copyright © 1996 by Nitin Arora
Works Cited
Norris, Richard. The Musician's Survival Guide. ICSOM(1993). 39-46
Zacharov, Dennis. Posture: Sitting, Standing, Chair Design and
Exercise. Charles C. Thomas(1988) 73,108-109, 180
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Here's my E-Mail Address if you have any thoughts, opinions, or
questions. Legnani (at) aol(dot)com
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Tips on Sitting with the Guitar
1. Pick a chair, preferably a forward sloping chair. Do not use
backward sloping chairs. If you must use a horizontal chair try
tucking one leg under as it will bring you forward and alleviate some
pressure on your back.
Seat cushioning should be comfortable but firm, avoid extremely hard
chairs with no cushioning and overly cushioned chairs. Be wary of
backrests.
2. Sit with the entire body in a symmetrical and aligned position
while still making minor movements and adjustments. Sitting properly
yet too rigidly makes for poor pressure distribution. Also, try
wearing loose clothing as too allow for easier movement.
3. Footstoolers(if you must) try a larger footstool so that you can
make minor adjustments with the foot of the raised leg. Also use a
flat footstool or forward sloping one; don't make it so the feet point
upwards.
4. Be careful about where you place your music stand, don't place it
so that your head must tilt either forwards or backwards. Tilt the
music stand rather than the head.
Music stands should not be too far away from the body or too close, as
to strain the eyes.
5. If you must see your hands while practising experiment with looking
straight into a mirror, as opposed to manipulating the body in order
to see your hands.
6. Get out of your chair and move! take breaks, walk around, walk in
place, stretch, etc. The human body does not like monotony.
7. Ask yourself "Do I really need to sit as much as I do?" Writing in
fingerings, visualization, and having deep thoughts about guitar
technique don't need to be done while sitting. Try them standing up or
lying down.
8. Eat well and exercise. People in good shape are less likely to have
back and neck problems.
9. Be happy dammit! People who can reduce the amount of stress in
their lives are less likely to have back and neck problems. Exercise
can also alleviate stress.
10. Don't let impatience be your master. Often guitarists feel that
they must be making physical contact with the strings in order to be
progressing. Taking a day to work on your sitting position with and
without the guitar is just as valid as spending a day working on your
rest stroke.
Copyright © 1996 by Nitin Arora
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Joel Siegel <jdsiegel (at)
ucdavis(dot)edu>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
"I myself have never been able to find out precisely what feminism is: +
I only know that I am called a feminist whenever I express sentiments +
that differentiate me from a doormat." -Rebecca West, 1913 +
"We'll add creationism to science textbooks just as soon as you add Darwin +
to the Bible." -Author unknown +
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- More thoughts on rsi,
Joel Siegel