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[HANASHIR:13529] Re: Learning Instruments



"Strike while the iron is hot" means to take advantage of their expressed 
interests (often passing, but sometimes not), not 'push them into something.' 
 And, it's much easier to stimulate and recognize their interest if the items 
are easily accessible.

Michael

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> Date: Monday, 10-Feb-03 04:40 PM
> 
> From: Adrian Durlester         \ Internet:    (adrian (at) durlester(dot)com)
> To:   Hanashir Mail Server     \ Internet:    (hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org)
> 
> Subject:  [HANASHIR:13506] Re: Learning Instruments
> 
> Sender: owner-hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org
> Reply-to:       hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org
> To:     hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org
> Another thought on this subject:
> 
> Let's avoid the temptation to become "soccer moms (or dads)" or "stage
> parents" in the rush to propel our children into musical skills. Nurture,
> yes. Urge, no. I find the "strike while the iron is hot" philosophy just a
> little bit scary when we're talking about such young children. Reminds me of
> pregnant women discussing how to make sure their unborn kid gets into the
> right prep school.
> 
> I am grateful that my talent was recognized and natured at a young age, but
> I also recognize what I gave up in my childhood because of that. In this day
> and age, when the pressures on kids are even worse, I think we need to be
> even more cautious about pushing our children to learn an instrument. Yes,
> there are always exceptions-there are those rare prodigies, and it would be
> a shame to not begin to harness that natural talent at a very young age.
> But, as much as parents hate to admit it, every child is not a prodigy.
> 
> Give your children a sense of rhythm, a sense of what music is and what they
> can do with it. Give them a taste-but don't force feed them.
> 
> Adrian
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org [mailto:owner-hanashir (at) 
> shamash(dot)org] On
> Behalf Of Moss5533 (at) aol(dot)com
> Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 3:04 PM
> To: hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org
> Subject: [HANASHIR:13503] Re: Learning Instruments
> 
> 
> Rosalie,
> 
> As the mother of 4, all interested in music and 2 of whom are music majors,
> I think the most important thing is to "strike while the iron is hot."
> Desire is key.  Once you are sure a true desire is there, if it isn't
> nurtured, it can wither.  Whatever instrument is decided upon, I'd rent
> first to be sure the interest lasts before buying.  The advice I heard
> repeatly through the years is that piano can start when the child can read.
> The Suzuki violin method begins some students as young as 3 1/2 (with
> parents who are willing to practice with them).  Two of my sons sang from
> the moment they could talk (and seldom stopped).  They began violin in 2nd
> grade at school and the next year one switched to cello.  I don't remember
> how old they started piano.  (You can rent scaled down instruments even as
> small as 1/8!)  A few of their friends who started strings even younger were
> ahead of them for many years but the main thing is their desire to play.  I
> would also have the child make a commitment for a certain length of time
> since kids interests can be pretty fickle and it takes a lot of practice to
> achieve results.  
> 
> Hope that helps,
> Fran Moss 
> 
> 
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> <P>Another thought on this subject:</P>
> <P>Let's avoid the temptation to become "soccer moms (or dads)" or "stage 
> parents" in the rush to propel our children into musical skills. Nurture, 
yes.
> Urge, no. I find the "strike while the iron is hot" philosophy just a little
> bit 
> scary when we're talking about such young children. Reminds me of pregnant
> women 
> discussing how to make sure their unborn kid gets into the right prep 
> school.</P>
> <P>I am grateful that my talent was recognized and natured at a young age, 
but
> I 
> also recognize what I gave up in my childhood because of that. In this day 
and
> age, when the pressures on kids are even worse, I think we need to be even 
more
> cautious about pushing our children to learn an instrument. Yes, there are 
> always exceptions-there are those rare prodigies, and it would be a shame to
> not 
> begin to harness that natural talent at a very young age. But, as much as 
> parents hate to admit it, every child is not a prodigy.</P>
> <P>Give your children a sense of rhythm, a sense of what music is and what 
they
> can do with it. Give them a taste-but don&#8217;t force feed them.</P>
> <P>Adrian</P></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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>   <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT 
>   face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> 
>   owner-hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org [mailto:owner-hanashir (at) 
> shamash(dot)org] <B>On 
Behalf
> Of 
>   </B>Moss5533 (at) aol(dot)com<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 10, 2003 
> 3:04 
>   PM<BR><B>To:</B> hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org<BR><B>Subject:</B> 
> [HANASHIR:13503] 
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>   Learning Instruments<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT 
>   lang=0 face=Arial size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">Rosalie,<BR><BR>As the mother 
of
>   4, all interested in music and 2 of whom are music majors, I think the 
most 
>   important thing is to "strike while the iron is hot."  Desire is 
>   key.  Once you are sure a true desire is there, if it isn't nurtured, it
>   can wither.  Whatever instrument is decided upon, I'd rent first to be 
>   sure the interest lasts before buying.  The advice I heard repeatly 
>   through the years is that piano can start when the child can read.  The
>   Suzuki violin method begins some students as young as 3 1/2 (with parents 
who
>   are willing to practice with them).  Two of my sons sang from the moment
>   they could talk (and seldom stopped).  They began violin in 2nd grade at
>   school and the next year one switched to cello.  I don't remember how
> old 
>   they started piano.  (You can rent scaled down instruments even as small
>   as 1/8!)  A few of their friends who started strings even younger were 
>   ahead of them for many years but the main thing is their desire to
> play.  
>   I would also have the child make a commitment for a certain length of 
time 
>   since kids interests can be pretty fickle and it takes a lot of practice 
to 
>   achieve results.  <BR><BR>Hope that helps,<BR>Fran Moss</FONT> 
> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
> 
> 

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