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[HANASHIR:12231] RE: Shir l'Ahava



Ah!  Arabic slang!  Makes perfect sense.   Thanks so much for your
expertise!  No wonder it seemed strange to me.  I know the kids have
been asking for this song for a while, so now they'll get it!  
Chag Sameach
Meris

Meris (at) nycap(dot)rr(dot)com


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org [mailto:owner-hanashir (at) 
shamash(dot)org] On
Behalf Of ilana axel
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 4:27 PM
To: hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org
Subject: [HANASHIR:12230] RE: Shir l'Ahava

Unless I'm mistaken it is probably correct. There are
2 uses of modern Hebrew slang here:
1. the second line "Ta'or -" would be actually "Et
ha'or shebashamayim." This abbreviated version is
acceptable in modern Hebrew pop/rock music. It's
spoken slang.
2.The sixth line:"Uv'li shum da'u'win" is slang ( the
word "d'uwin" is Arabic actually I believe) for
something like, "and without any further nonsense",
without further ado, straight to the point, etc. It
makes perfect sense in the general context of the
song.
Hope this helps, Ilana
--- Meris Ruzow <meris (at) nycap(dot)rr(dot)com> wrote:
> Can someone help me with the last verse of this
> song?   I have some
> transliterated words and I'm sure there's a wrong
> word in here.   
> Here is what I have:
> 
> Yachad, lev el lev nif-tach v'nir-eh
> Ta-or sh'ba-sha-mayim
> Yachad, lev el lev niftach b'tikvah
> L'ahavah,
> V'rak im na-a-mim
> UV'LI SHUM DA-U-WIN
> Baderech hao-lah
> Zeh shir ha-ahavah.
> 
> Obviously there's something wrong there!
> Thanks,
> Meris
> meris (at) nycap(dot)rr(dot)com
> 
> 
> Meris (at) nycap(dot)rr(dot)com
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org
> [mailto:owner-hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org] On
> Behalf Of jill
> Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 9:19 AM
> To: Hava Nashira
> Subject: [HANASHIR:12213] Sukkot
> 
> In light of the recent  postings regarding Sukkot
> music I thought you
> would find this interesting.  You can access this
> via
> http://jnul.huji.ac.il/dl/music/sukot
> 
> The sound archives at Hebrew University are a
> wonderful resource and if
> any of you are in Israel, look me up for a personal
> tour
> 
> 
> 
>                  Internet 'Treat' from Hebrew
> University's
> 
>                  National Library: Succot Melodies
> 
>                  From Around the World
> 
> 
> 
>             Jerusalem, September 17, 2002 - In time
> for Succot, which
> begins this Friday night, the Jewish National and
> University Library is
> presenting on its Internet site a selection of
> traditional songs and
> liturgical melodies connected to the holiday. The
> material is from the
> collection of the library's National Sound Archives.
> 
>             The selection includes melodies
> pertaining to Succot
> (including Hoshana Raba) and Simchat Torah,
> including the prayer for
> rain. Among the pieces which can be heard on the
> site are those from
> Hassidic, Samaritan, Ashkenazi and Sephardi
> communities in Israel and
> tunes from other countries such as India,
> Afghanistan, Yemen, Tunisia,
> Morocco, Iraq, Lithuania, Georgia, Bulgaria, Italy
> and Greece.
> 
>             The National Sound Archives of the
> Jewish National and
> University Library was established in 1964 as the
> music department of
> the Jewish National and University Library. The
> archives records and
> preserves the musical traditions of the various
> ethnic Jewish
> communities within Israel and throughout the Jewish
> world, as well of
> non-Jewish communities in Israel.
> 
>             The Succot "treat" from the library is
> part of the ongoing
> David and Fela Shapell Family Digitization Project,
> which is intended to
> make the library's collections more accessible to
> the public worldwide.
> 
> 
> 
> ______
> 
> For further information: Jerry Barach, Dept. of
> Media Relations,
> 02-5882904
> 
>                                        Orit
> Sulitzeanu, spokesperson,
> 052-608018
> 
> 
> 
>  B'shalom
> 
> Jill Moskowitz, Director
> North American Desk
> Hebrew University of Jerusalem
> Mount Scopus, Jerusalem 91905
> 02-5882838
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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