[HANASHIR:11329] Question on Cannons (the musical kind)...

[Jeff Klepper <jeffklepper...>]

For the musicologists among us:

It is known that many of the popular Jewish songs we sing have been adapted
from older (presumably non-Jewish) cannons or "rounds".  These include
versions of:

Hava Nashira, Ma Tovu, Hashiveinu, Shalom Aleichem, Mi Ma'amakim, and, yes,
Hodu La-sultan, among others. (Maybe even the "old" Hinei Ma Tov?)

Could anyone hazard a best guess as to the century of composition for the
first two, Hava Nashira and Ma Tovu?

Posts either public or private are fine.

Thanks in advance,
Jeff Klepper

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