[HANASHIR:8229] Re: Kol Isha

[WINSTON WEILHEIMER <nusach...>]

since we have learned that the kol isha issue is halachic and stems from 
talmudic times, it stands to reason that when miriam sang her song in the 
desert, men heard the singing.  So much for women being freed from slavery 
too! at least after the time of the Talmud....

btw...this morning i played a cd called kol isha compiled by the "rock'n 
rebbitzen" Michele Garner, who has a weekly show on the radio and the net 
(friday mornings) from statin island.  The first song is called the kol isha 
blues.  I will put it on the playlist for the live show on nusach this week. 
  It will play on Monday night Thursday night at 10pm eastern and next 
sunday morning at 9am eastern.  The show can best be accessed through my web 
site at http://sites.netscape.net/nusachmaven


(kol isha warning....I play music by women on my show!)

Winston Weilheimer
Host/OWNER
NUSACH INTERNET RADIO NETWORK
Nusach, THE ORIGINAL SOUL MUSIC!
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>From: Emworobey (at) aol(dot)com
>Reply-To: hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org
>To: hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org
>Subject: [HANASHIR:8228] Kol Isha
>Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 11:32:34 EST
>
>Shirona, et al:
>
>I can definitely relate to this and understand your outrage.  I have
>occasionally encountered situations like these as the lead singer, and only
>female, in a 6 piece band which began as a klezmer group, but has now
>branched out.  We now play all genres of Jewish (and non-Jewish) music but
>our audiences are almost always Jewish.  As an integral member of this 
>group,
>there have been occasions when I have felt as you did.  It is very 
>upsetting.
>  You want to be tolerant of other people's beliefs but it's very difficult
>when tolerating their beliefs means that you have to compromise your own.
>
>We had a different, yet somewhat similar, situation recently in which a
>Jewish group wanted to hire us for a simcha at their shul but said that 
>they
>could not condone men and women playing music together on the same stage so
>these were the choices if we wanted to accept the gig:  A) they could hire 
>me
>solo and I could sing and strum my guitar all night but they really wanted 
>to
>dance and be merry so that probably wasn't going to work;  B) I could round
>up some other women musicians to play with me who were familiar with our
>repertoire but there would be no time to rehearse before the gig so we'd be
>totally winging it;  C) the guys could do the gig without me.
>
>But there was one hitch.  They really wanted VOCALS.  The guys in my band
>sing back-ups but none of them considers himself a singer and would not be
>comfortable singing lead unless it was American rock which this group was
>definitely not going to want to hear!  My feeling was "Too bad, you lose!
>Either take us for who we are or get someone else who can meet all your
>criteria.  There's no compromising here."  The whole thing really irritated
>me.  The guys agreed with me and in the end, we chose option D) Decline the
>gig.
>
>I felt just a little bit empowered by this because I realized that just as
>they have their beliefs and make choices based on them, so do we.
>
>Emily Worobey
>emworobey (at) aol(dot)com
>

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