[HANASHIR:8089] Re: NUSACH

[WINSTON WEILHEIMER <nusach...>]

>     You are right to want to chant weekday mode/nusach at the Shabbat 
>Maariv
>service.  In fact in my studies on Nusach, there are points in the Mincha
>service where the weekday nusach is chanted before going back to the mincha
>service Nusach.
>     I am a cantorial student who is studying the traditional nusach with a
>Conservative Cantor in my area.  I also am the Soloist in my Reform
>Congregation.  I have the same problem as you.  If I try to slip in Weekday
>Nusach for the Chatsi Kaddish, Avot, G'vurot, and K'dushah at a Shabbat
>Mincha Bar/Bat Mitzvah service where it is appropriate to do so, my
>congregation looks at me like I am from outer space! They think I should be
>using the Shabbat Nusach all of the time. The problem is that the more I
>learn about traditional Nusach, the more I want to use it.  There is an old
>adage that if you don't use, you'll lose it.
>     For anyone who is interested in learning the traditional Nusach for 
>all
>of the services, there are some great books and tapes available.  Through 
>the
>Cantor's Assembly you can order all of the Pinchas Spiro books and tapes 
>for
>all of the services.  Through the JTS you can order the complete Saul Wachs
>tapes.  Unfortunately with those tapes you do not get musical notation.  
>From
>Transcontinental you can purchase the Kotchko series of nusach notation, 
>but
>no tapes.  From Chadish Media a more Chassidic, Orthodox source to can get
>tapes for all of the services, and no notation.  From Tara you can order 
>the
>Spiro books and also those of Noah Schall.  The Spiro are very basic nusach
>without a lot of ornamentation to sift through.  You can really get to the
>fundamentals with the Spiro.  From what I have heard from others, the 
>Schall
>books have a lot more ornamentation.  Also, the Kotchko series is the 
>Nusach
>that the Reform Cantorate studies.  There are also some Abraham Davis tapes
>available from Tara.  Davis is an old school chazzan who really gives you a
>flavor of some of the ornamentation you can use with the nusach once it is
>learned.
>     I hope that this has helped.  In the meantime, I will fax you some
>notation on the weekday Chatsi Kaddish, Avot, G'vurot, and K'dushah.
>
>B'Shirah,
>Donna Gordon
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Donna, Your sentiments are exactly the reason that I spend as much time per 
week as I do, getting my playlists for the radio show together.
Don't forget, you can hear nusach 24 hours a day on the nusach internet 
radio network.....

if you have anything you would like to hear, or contribute to the enjoyment 
of others, please send email to me at

nusach (at) hotmail(dot)com and I will let you know where to send the cd or 
tape.  If 
there are requests for specific nusach or cantors, I will try to put them on 
the 24 hour station and play them on our live broadcasts.  I am happy to see 
this discussion, especially the above comments.  While I enjoy listening and 
using modern melody in the service, I fear the loss of such great music of 
the past.  As you said, use it or loose it really applies.  Once in a while, 
I will pull out some nusach from my youth and the members of the 
congregation invariatebly (sp?) come up to me and tell me that they have not 
heard that in 50 years.  I cringe at pesach to hear this when I do Tal 
because it means that chazzanim are not using the nusach, but rather are 
either just doing something else or ignoring it.  Nusach is supposed to set 
the tone and mood of the service.  Nusach gets you in the mood.  The network 
stations are an attempt to expose people to the nusach of the past, while 
entertaining at the same time.

For anyone new to the list, you can learn more about Nusach Internet Radio 
at

http://sites.netscape.net/nusachmaven

shabbat shalom



Winston Weilheimer
Host/OWNER
NUSACH INTERNET RADIO NETWORK
Nusach, THE ORIGINAL SOUL MUSIC!

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