[HANASHIR:6658] Re: ARE

[Meris Ruzow <meris...>]

Does anyone have Ethan's private email address?   I need it pronto!
Meris Ruzow
meris (at) nycap(dot)rr(dot)com

-----Original Message-----
From: Robbi Sherwin <sherwin (at) earthlink(dot)net>
To: hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org <hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org>
Date: Thursday, August 03, 2000 9:41 PM
Subject: [HANASHIR:6656] Re: ARE


>arepublish.com
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>>Does anyone know the website for ARE?
>>Thanks,
>>Meris Ruzow
>>meris (at) nycap(dot)rr(dot)com
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Adrian Durlester <durleste (at) home(dot)com>
>>To: hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org <hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org>
>>Date: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 8:10 AM
>>Subject: [HANASHIR:6605] Re: Ki Va Moed
>>
>>
>>>Rachelle:
>>>
>>>
>>>You are correct in that there are many levels of understanding of these
>>>words. And I would theorize that this is deliberate. That is the power of
>>>the Psalms - their ability to be therapeutic in any age.
>>>
>>>The plain meaning of Ki va moed is that the time has come for the
>>>restoration of Zion - the place where Gd has chosen dwell among Israel.
It
>>>is the time of the answer to the prayer of the afflicted, for with Zion's
>>>restoration will come the restoration of the afflicted as well. The
>>question
>>>arises-is this a prayer of faith, or hope? Some classify this psalm as
>>>"penitential."
>>>
>>>If you examine the full text of Psalm 102, you'll see it is a very
>>>time-oriented text. It aims to assist the one(s) for whom it was written,
>>>the "afflicted," deal with the transient nature of human life through an
>>>understanding and acceptance of Gd's time scale, which measures not in
days
>>>or weeks or even months, but years, generations, eternity. Examine the
last
>>>two lines:
>>>
>>>28:But You are the same, and your years shall have no end
>>>29:The children of your servants shall continue, and their seed shall be
>>>established before you.
>>>
>>>There is human time, and Gd's time. Only by finding a way to think
>>long-term
>>>can humanity deal with their own transient nature.
>>>
>>>So, perhaps the appointed (or set) time has come for:
>>>
>>>1. Gd to restore Zion and remove the pain of the afflicted.
>>>2. Humanity to recognize that only Gd's time is permanent
>>>3. Realize that only through embracing the long term can humanity come to
>>>grips with the world.
>>>4. Gd to resume Gd's throne in Zion/Jerusalem, and reassert Gd's rule
over
>>>all the earth, and raise up Gd's chosen people (and, in a more liberal
>>>interpretation, all the afflicted of the world, Jew and gentile alike.)
>>>
>>>Or maybe it's a psalm of complaint, saying "hey Gd! we've suffered long
>>>enough. it is TIME for you to hear the prayers of the afflicted and
restore
>>>those who praise your name.
>>>
>>>Interestingly enough, though labeled penitential, nowhere in the psalm
does
>>>the psalmist admit that their own transgressions, the transgressions of
>>>Israel, are the cause of their misfortune. No, the psalmist simply blames
>>>Gd:
>>>
>>>11. Because of your indignation and your wrath; for you have lifted me
up,
>>>and cast me down.
>>>
>>>Only through a twisted and subtle interpretation (keyed on the word
>>>"z'am'cha" - "indignation") could one suggest that the psalmist was
coming
>>>close to admitting human complicity in their own misfortune by failing to
>>>follow Gd's laws.
>>>
>>>So perhaps the "time has come" for action on Gd's part - to listen to the
>>>prayers of the afflicted - for the psalm suggests early on:
>>>
>>>2. Hear my prayer, O Lord, and let my cry reach you.
>>>3. Do not hide your face from me in the day when I am in trouble; incline
>>>your ear to me; answer me speedily in the day when I call.
>>>
>>>as if Gd is being accused of not listening.
>>>
>>>I don't know that Reb Shlomo necessarily had any specific intent in
>>>repeating the words Ki va moed in the song, other than that it fit the
mood
>>>and melody that Gd put in his head. It's one thing to try and interpret
the
>>>text of Tanakh, But I'm less comfortable intepreting the songwriting of
Reb
>>>Shlomo.
>>>
>>>I realize this only scratches the surface of interpretation of Psalm 102,
>>>but it's a start and food for thought. I praise without end your desire
to
>>>understand the texts you are teaching and singing. You can give the
Tanakh
>>>and Gd no greater honor!
>>>
>>>Adrian
>>>
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>>>                          -George Carlin
>>>Adrian A. Durlester. M.T.S.  -  durleste (at) home(dot)com
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: owner-hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org [mailto:owner-hanashir (at) 
>>>> shamash(dot)org]On
>>>> Behalf Of Rachelle and Howard Shubert
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 6:52 AM
>>>> To: hanashir (at) shamash(dot)org
>>>> Subject: [HANASHIR:6603] Re: Ki Va Moed
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I would like to have a fuller understanding of the text of Ki Va Moed
>>>> before teaching it to our Rosh Chodesh group.   I have noted the
>>reference
>>>> of Psalms, chapt. 102, vs. 13-14:
>>>>
>>>> > 13. But you, O LORD, are enthroned forever;
>>>> >     Your fame endures throughout the ages.
>>>> > 14. You will surely arise and take pity on Zion,
>>>> >     for it is time to be gracious to her;
>>>> >     the appointed time has come (Ki va Moed)
>>>>
>>>> However, I can think of differing interpretations and possibly layers
of
>>>> meaning to the last line, which seems to be stressed by the
>>>> repetition of it
>>>> in the song.  Has the appointed time come for Gd, for the poet or
>>>> for Zion,
>>>> and what is to be done at this appointed time?  Is it a line we
>>>> should apply
>>>> to our personal life changes?  Scholars, what would you say?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Rachelle Shubert
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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